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Viewing Topic: 06/23 - Sox vs. Guards: Round 2
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3/30 OPENING DAY GT: Sox @ Astros (Cease v Valdez) 6PM ESPN
The curse of Menechino continues…
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Leury Garcia released
I think his back may be more jacked up than we realize.
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3/30 OPENING DAY GT: Sox @ Astros (Cease v Valdez) 6PM ESPN
Fully agree, but Romy should be utilized against LHP regardless. Not as a full platoon partner for Colas, but to help us against really tough lefties. The kid legit destroyed them in AA in an admittedly SSS, but his handedness makes it seems less fluke-ish.
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3/30 OPENING DAY GT: Sox @ Astros (Cease v Valdez) 6PM ESPN
That is a super small sample size and he wasn’t facing major leaguers. I’m hopeful he’s not a platoon guy, but let’s not act as if he’s a proven LHP masher at this time. There will likely be an adjustment period for him and it’s very reasonable to sit him tonight.
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3/30 OPENING DAY GT: Sox @ Astros (Cease v Valdez) 6PM ESPN
Kudos to Grifol for making the right decision and not the emotional one. No doubt playing Colas on Opening Day would be more fun, but Romy against a tough lefty when we won’t face another one for some time is the right call.
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3/30 OPENING DAY GT: Sox @ Astros (Cease v Valdez) 6PM ESPN
Good lineup all things considered
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3/30 OPENING DAY GT: Sox @ Astros (Cease v Valdez) 6PM ESPN
Here are our hitters’ splits vs. Valdez in the past: Player | PA | BB % | K % | ISO | HR | BA | OPS Andrus: 17 | 6% | 0% | .063 | 0 | .250 | .646 Vaughn: 14 | 7% | 29% | .230 | 1 | .385 | 1.044 Moncada: 14 | 7% | 14% | .384 | 1 | .232 | .901 Anderson: 12 | 8% | 8% | .272 | 1 | .273 | .879 Grandal: 7 | 14% | 0% | .000 | 0 | .333 | .833 Benintendi: 7 | 0% | 14% | .000 | 0 | .286 | .571 Robert: 6 | 17% | 17% | .000 | 0 | .600 | .1267 Jimenez: 6 | 17% | 0% | .000 | 0 | .400 | .900 Average: NA | 10% | 10% | .119 | NA | .345 | .880 These are tiny sample sizes obviously, but on average we have seen Valdez pretty well vs. the rest of the league. And that makes sense given Valdez is primarily a sinker-curveball pitcher, which our core guys hit well overall. I feel like we should be able to scrap together three or four runs off him today. Ultimately this one feels like it comes down to Cease. He hasn’t been good against the Astros in the past and even last year he was bad in his one start against them. We really need five strong from him tonight and then pray the bullpen can close things out. Regardless, this should be a fun way to kick of the 2023 season.
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3/30 OPENING DAY GT: Sox @ Astros (Cease v Valdez) 6PM ESPN
We’re going to destroy Valdez tomorrow. I’m predicting slaughter rule …11-0 White Sox. At least three bombs for us including one by Vaughn. Cease goes six strong with 10 k’s. Lopez pitches a perfect 9th to close things out.
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Roster Cuts Thread
f*** yes!!
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2023 MiLB catch all
What happened?
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Time to give this Sox team a chance
Don’t you burn the option by sending him down?
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Who are the 4 bench players for the Sox?
Those guys are all bad, not major league ready, and/or potentially not even in the organization. I’d probably rather go with Eloy & Sheets than any of that group on a regular basis. That’s the point and probably Grifol would do. There is a reason they keep playing Eloy in the OF, he is likely part of a contingency plan for better or worse.
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Who are the 4 bench players for the Sox?
My point was if Robert is out for an extended period of time, you either play Colas in CF with Eloy or Sheets in RF or you have to call up a AAAA CF type from Charlotte. Not sure why Haseley is that much more appealing than playing Eloy or Gavin out of the position. Both scenarios would be really bad for us IMO.
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Who are the 4 bench players for the Sox?
Agree. Andrew Vaughn made Gavin Sheets look like Andruw Jones out there.
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Who are the 4 bench players for the Sox?
Sure, but then you’re trotting out Sheets or Eloy in RF everyday. Neither set of options is ideal IMO.
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Who are the 4 bench players for the Sox?
I don’t want him playing the OF either, but I think there is a path to quite a bit of playing time at 1B / DH. As for Haseley, if the swing change works out then that might change things, but otherwise he doesn’t complement this roster all that well at the moment. Let him prove himself in AAA first. I’m not a huge fan of Marisnick and would rather rely on Romy to fill that role on the roster in all honesty.
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Who are the 4 bench players for the Sox?
Those guys are massive downgrades and not legit 4th OFs. If we have to play either in CF for a 30 game stretch, we are in big trouble. We should have signed someone like Adam Duvall, but tired of beating that dead horse.
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Time to give this Sox team a chance
The biggest early indicator of success is how our batted ball profile and power output shakes out. Obviously the ball doesn’t carry as far in the cold April weather so can’t rely entirely on HRs to make this call, but seeing more lift, more pull, and less chasing will have me super excited.
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Who are the 4 bench players for the Sox?
No doubt, but guys can’t play 140 or 150 games if the manager constantly rotates the bench into the lineup regardless of matchups. This is baseball, most guys don’t need a ton of days off beyond what’s already in the schedule. If their bodies break down so be it, but put them out there until that actually happens unless there is a matchup benefit to exploit. Bench guys are bench guys because they are typically flawed / imperfect players. No need to overplay in the sake of keeping them “fresh”. That logic has driven me nuts for years and I’m so glad it appears it will be changing.
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Who are the 4 bench players for the Sox?
And building off the above, here’s what that means in an optimal state for the bench: Sheets: 44 starts at 1B / DH against RHP Alberto: 22 starts against LHP at 3B; 24 starts at 2B (handedness mix TBD) Romy: 22 starts against LHP in RF; 12 starts in LF against LHP The biggest gap from a platoon standpoint is at 2B, which is a bit unfortunate but a reflection of having a four man bench. Otherwise, I think this arrangement works well in an optimal state. And having Sheets & Alberto gives you a quality pinch hitter from both sides of the plate while Romy provides the flexibility to replace said pinch hitter pretty much regardless of position. There is a logic to this all unlike last year where it was “play Leury regardless of the situation”. And to be clear, there will obviously be injuries and these guys will be asked to play a lot more than they should. For example, the OF situation could get real messy with even a single significant injury. Having to play Sheets or Eloy in a corner on a regular basis is terrifying and being forced to play Colas in CF on a regular basis would not be ideal in the event of a Robert injury. That remains the biggest weakness with the bench construction as having a legit 4th OF who can play on a regular basis if needed would have been optimal.
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Who are the 4 bench players for the Sox?
So elaborating on this a bit, but the Braves had two players play 162 games last year (Swanson & Olsen) and one play 159 (Riley). Harris played pretty much every single day once he was called up and Acuna played most days once his season actually started (he did receive more rest than others which makes sense). Point is their stars started almost every single game if they were healthy. I’m not convinced that Grifol will go that extreme, but I truly believe he shoots for ~150 starts for our legit stars and the guys where there isn’t some obvious platoon advantage to take advantage of. Guys like Anderson, Robert, Andrus, & Benintendi should be playing pretty much everyday. I get that the former two haven’t been able to stay healthy over the course of a full season as of late, but giving them more than an extra off-day once every two weeks really isn’t going to change things. Unless they are actually hurt, put them on the field. Moncada, Eloy, & Vaughn fall into the next tier for me because of their history of nagging injuries. To me, I think Grifol shoots for ~140 starts out of them. For Moncada, proactively giving him ~22 off-days against LHP throughout the season makes some sense with a guy like Alberto on the roster. Similar logic applies to Eloy & Vaughn against tough RHP with Sheets on the roster. That only leaves Colas of the non-catching starters. And with him, it’s really hard to say how they treat him against LHP. My guess is they won’t do a strict platoon in the long-run, but they may slowly introduce him to major league lefties to start the season. Gun to head, I’m guessing he will also get ~22 days off against LHP this year, which would put him around 140 starts if healthy. As outlined above, this is very different from how Tony managed things. Yes, this hasn’t been the most healthy crew as of late, but Abreu was the only guy who was out there pretty much everyday. I’m super happy this will change significantly under Grifol as not utilizing your best players as much as possible is an incredibly stupid way of managing a team. Put them out there unless their bodies clearly say no, which will obviously quite a bit with this group, but zero reason to baby them.
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Pedro Grifol named White Sox manager; Katz asked to return per Rosey
I was very skeptical of this hire at first, but I think today proves that Grifol is going to help modernize the f*** out of this organization. It’s incredibly early, but his hire looks like it could end up being a game changer for us.
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Who are the 4 bench players for the Sox?
Looks like this will end up being on the money. And honestly, I’m much happier with this bench arrangement than a lot of different outcomes. Burger playing 3B everyday in Charlotte makes all the sense in the world. He will be needed at some point this year.
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Who are the 4 bench players for the Sox?
?…something tells me Romy is making the roster
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Who are the 4 bench players for the Sox?
I’ve been expecting as much, so hopefully this is true: