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I mean, go look at his extension numbers. I’m no pitching expert, but it’s very clear something changed mechanically.

What?

Which again suggests your valuation process is FY = PY x 1

You think there were 175+ qualified pitchers in baseball last year?

Comparing the NFL to the MLB from a parity standpoint is absolutely ridiculous.

He’s going to be the only Sox fan upset if we do in fact get a haul.

rWAR as in Baseball Reference’s WAR? If so, they don’t account for the s%*# defense that Cease played behind last year, so not sure why you’d use that version of the stat.

Yup, blame the Brewers for not spending at the levels of the Dodgers when their regional TV deal is worth 10% of LA’s.

I hope Balta cries when we ultimately receive all these stud prospects for Cease

I hope Mike Elias cries when he ultimately gives up all these stud prospects for Cease.

We’re talking about having enough pitching in your system, so I’m not sure how any of this applies. No one is saying let’s go sign a bunch of relievers or #5 type starters to multi-years contracts or anything like that.

The gap is getting worse and the big market teams are finally realizing the cheat code too. The Mets under Stearns are a real threat to be another Dodgers in time.

I’d disagree. The Sox are the perfect example of a team with no depth and can’t even luck into replacement level pitching when injuries hit in some years

Oh I don’t view the Forbes’ valuations to be perfect by any means, but those figures are primarily driven by market size and the corresponding revenue streams afforded to them. The point is the Dodgers can make long-term commitments that most franchises can’t dream of because of the security blanket their insane TV deal provides.

They have committed more money this off-season than several franchises are worth per Forbes’ valuations.

I’d put at least seven or eight pitching prospects ahead of Veras, who is well below Ramos & Quero who are well below Montgomery. The system is much deeper in pitching than it is positional prospects IMO.

If a pitching prospect is one of the headliners of a Cease trade, then that player better have legit TOR potential. That’s where the Braves do make some sense as AJSS actually fits the billing and is major league ready to boot. But I’d hate to use Cease to acquire more guys with MOR ceilings. We have tons of those guys already in the system and while you can never have enough pitching, the lack of quality positional prospects is terrifying.

You’re missing my point. The Padres took a shot at creating a super team by gutting their farm system, but it didn’t work out and now they’re taking a step back and unloading salary. I actually applaud Preller for his aggressiveness as windows are short for most clubs. Unfortunately, the reality is he was never going to be able to sustain a “super team” talent level. Meanwhile, the Dodgers have no financial restrictions whatsoever because of their massive regional TV deal. They can go replicate what the Rays are doing from an analytics and development perspective but then supplement it with $300M in reoccurring payroll. And if they miss on some free agents, they can simply spend on more. How is that fair? Do the few extra draft picks that small market teams get make up for massive disparity in revenue. Is it ok that LA gets to go the playoffs 10 times in a decade whereas most small market clubs are lucky to make two appearances?

The Padres being a super team was never sustainable as they don’t have a TV deal worth $340M per season.

The Dodgers’ regional TV deal provides 10x the revenue that the Brewers’ does. These two clubs will never be on a level playing field under the current system. I don’t really care about this “the post-season is a crap shoot” argument either. The Dodgers will likely make the playoffs the next 10 years. That’s absolute wild that I can say that right now, but it’s the likely reality with the super team they’ve built and a farm system that will continue providing cheap talent. And the more chances you get, the better odds of winning a World Series. So yeah, the Dodgers will get unlimited chances over the next decade whereas the small market teams will need to be garbage for at least four or five years to acquire enough cheap talent to get even a couple shots at a title. Baseball is beyond broken and interest in small markets is simply going to run dry if this s%*# keeps happening.

? Are you Patrick Nolan?

Why is prospect hugging better than competing?

I kind of hope the Dodgers win the next 10 World Series and kill off all interest in baseball. This superteam really s%*# sucks.

Holy s%*# I hate the Dodgers