Chicago White Sox

I wasn’t able to watch this game, but love seeing the box score.

I don’t remember scouting reports saying he threw this hard. How do his secondaries look?

He throws that hard???

Is this a serious post? Please tell me you aren’t this sensitive.

I’m sure he did but not as blatantly stupid as Trump does. Remind me about those tariffs that were supposed to be implemented…

Why do we care? Not sure how that’s relevant to the topic at hand. If Getz doesn’t believe in Canario like 28 other GMs, then he shouldn’t give up assets for him. He’s the GM…it’s really that simple.

If they lose 120 games again you and everyone else will have their pitchforks and torches ready to go. You keep ignoring that no credible GM is going to hand 600 plate appearances to a player they don’t believe in simply because they are young. And it’s very clear Getz doesn’t believe in Canario or he would have offered something more than cash for him. And beyond the job security element that you don’t want to acknowledge, there is some value in having a few spots in the lineup with higher floor veterans. Again, I too would prefer a younger player get the opportunity in RF, but there isn’t anyone worthy of the job. A Tauchman/Slater platoon is a perfectly fine cheap placeholder until something better presents itself.

They could and they will be cut if they struggle. But until someone actually forces the issue, you might as well throw them out there and hope they can provide league average production on the cheap. Unfortunately we don’t have any OF prospects in the upper minors who look like they are even replacement level.

Getting 2 wins out of RF vs. the -2 we got last year would certainly be a good start in avoiding that.

Losing 120 games again would also be stupid if you’re Chris Getz

3pm would likely be after the sale deadline…I believe it to mean something

What time today? Let’s go down this rabbit hole

There is no way the drop in payroll has been shifted to infrastructure. A small amount sure, but the general decrease is driven by a reduction in revenue and not capital allocation.

Updated 26 man roster projection: Lineup: 1B: Vaughn 2B: Rojas* SS: Baldwin# 3B: Vargas LF: Tauchman* CF: Taylor RF: Fletcher* DH: Sosa CA: Lee Bench: BC: Thaiss* IF: Amaya OF: Slater UT: Drury Rotation: Perez* Martin Cannon Burke Wilson Bullpen: CL: Anderson SU: Varland SU: Berroa MR: Clevinger (🤮) MR: Booser* MR: Murfee MR: Gilbert* LR: Smith

I just hope we get some leak today on how much ownership he’s assumed…I’m guessing we don’t hear much until the league approves unfortunately.

I wasn’t referring to you, but thanks for always being respectful 😘

They’re just trolling. Unfortunately, there are still people who get joy making dumb comments on message boards and riling up the posters there.

DeLoach had an option last year and was a consensus top 16 to 25 prospect for the Mariners. Not suggesting that is overly valuable, but he was more than just a throw in. And one year later, he can’t hold a 40 man roster spot on a team completely devoid of OF talent.

It’s amazing that Getz acknowledged that having some OF depth in the upper minors would prove valuable given our general lack of talent outside of Robert and yet missed horribly on the evaluations of Fletcher & DeLoach. Honestly, I’d prefer rotating some of the infielders through LF while Andrew is out vs. giving Fletcher the job. I’d also throw a claim at Canairo when the Mets ultimately try to sneak him through waivers.

@ptatc - How worried should we be about Colson’s back spasms?

By no means am I supporting the acquisition. To be honest, it’s hard to see it working out for us unless he doesn’t transforms his offensive game. But I do truly believe Vargas will be a semi useful hitter next year and not the complete black hole he was last year.

Madrigal didn’t walk all that much to begin with though. And Vargas should have much more raw power than Nick, although he obviously didn’t show much last year.

I honestly disagree. I think his floor is probably a 90 wRC+ next year. I can’t stress enough how elite his plate discipline is and even a mostly empty OBP is going to create a fairly high floor. Again, for him it comes down to whether he can actually impact a baseball consistently when he makes contact. He looked awful in that regard last year and Statcast backs up the eye test. I just don’t buy what we saw last year is truly reflective of his ability. I’m not one to buy into spring training fluff pieces, but him gaining weight was important to see as he did look extremely frail last year when I watched him play. I think that should help in the power department and I don’t believe for a second that a kid with a 60 grade hit tool will be so bad at squaring up on the ball long-term. I expect substantial improvement this year with the bat, but even a 100 wRC+ isn’t all that valuable if he can’t play a normal position. He’s got to be closer to 120 if he wants to be an everyday 1B or DH and that’s hard to picture right now based on what we have seen out of him in a White Sox uniform.

Sosa is a really tough one for me. He’s obviously not going to get to 100 wRC+ without major improvement in his chase rate. If he can start laying off some sliders and take a few more walks, I think he can get there. Lenyn has fairly average bat speed and raw power, but he gets the most out of it by being able to square up on the ball consistently and having a swing geared for quality contact. He could go either way IMO and that high uncertainty is why I have him below Vargas & Baldwin in likelihood to achieve a 100 wRC+ next year.

The guys I think have the best chance of reaching or exceeding a 100 wRC+ this year are Vargas, Baldwin, Meidroth, & Sosa. My personal money would be on Vargas & Baldwin. By no means am I excited about Vargas, but his ability to draw walks at an elite level should hopefully get him close to 100. From there, it comes down to being impact the baseball more consistently, which I need to see before I believe. As for Baldwin, he’s just a well rounded hitter who does everything well. As much as I Stan for Meidroth, I am the highest on Baldwin of all prospects in this tier. I think he can be a 2+ win player as soon as next year and I could see him ending up around a 100 to 105 wRC+ if he adjusts a bit faster than expected.