Chicago White Sox

Lol...they are certainly not in a great position with Price and no idea how this guy thinks the Kluber deal helps them.

Add this point my ideal plan B would be the following: Ryu - 3/$66M Walker - 1/$9M Encarnacion - 1/$10M Harris - 2/$18M Holt - 2/$9M Maybin - 1/$4M McCann traded for prospect depth Here would be the lineup on OD and come June 1st respectively: 1B: Abreu 2B: Holt* / Madrigal SS: Anderson 3B: Moncada# LF: Jimenez CF: Maybin / Robert RF: Mazara* DH: Encarnacion CA: Grandal# IF: Mendick / Holt* OF: Engel / Maybin UT: Garcia# BC: Collins* #1: Giolito #2: Ryu* #3: Cease #4: Lopez #5: Walker / Kopech CL: Colome SU: Bummer* SU: Harris MR: Herrera MR: Fry* MR: Cordero MR: Marshall / Rodon* LR: Fulmer / Walker

Pace needs to look at how the Titans have played since moving on from Mariota and at a very minimum find someone that can seriously compete for the starting QB job next year.

I mean, it’s pretty clear they didn’t want Bumgarner. And honestly I’d prefer Ryu to Bumgarner so that would be a net positive, although I still think we land Keuchel. It’s too bad we got spurred by Wheeler though. He was about as good as we could do on the pitching front. I’m not really mad about Ozuna given the questionable fit (still would have been excited by his addition) if they’re planning to be aggressive on OFs next offseason, I just find Mazara underwhelming as a stopgap if we’re actually trying to compete next year.

The clearance rack is already open and we haven’t signed any of those guys, so for now we should remain cautiously optimistic until Ryu & Keuchel sign elsewhere.

I don’t disagree, just no idea who else fits that description and actually has a chance of being useful.

Giving up Stiever for a one year rental should be a no go.

So Price and who else?

We’ll find out soon enough whether they are just waiting out Boras or if they truly didn’t have a plan B. Honestly, the rational side of me thinks the former, but each time a free agent pitcher get picked off I think the latter.

Oh they will definitely fire Gar if they continue suck and bottom line remains impacted. The problem is Paxson has a lifetime contract so real change will never happen. And worse of all is that Michael Reinsdorf is the most inept trustafarian in the history of mankind and has been given the Bulls as his little project. Thank god he has no involvement with the White Sox.

Of course, but I also think that we’re more desperate than most of these other teams and also I think most of them may place a more conservative valuation on Keuchel.

I also think the Sox will place more value on his groundball inducing abilities and durability than other teams. He wouldn’t be a sexy addition by any means, but zero reason to go with a cheaper option if you can get him on a three year deal.

Who is Michel? You mean Keuchel?

He clearly doesn’t care about winning when it comes the Bulls.

I could easily be wrong, but I personally value Ryu above Bumgarner.

I think Keuchel is somewhere between 3/$55M or 4/$70M. I think Ryu is closer to the 3/$65M to 4/$85M range.

I think they’re willing to negotiate with the secondary Boras guys, but the reality is Boras will wait us out as long as possible in hopes of getting his clients the best deal possible. I will say that this Bumgarner deal being so team friendly is reason for optimism, but that being said there are still a lot of teams looking for pitching so who fucking knows.

I do think Keuchel happens, but a bit terrifying that starters keep going and we are nowhere to be found. Maybe we get lucky and they surprise us with Ryu.

If you get Keuchel I think gambling on Wood makes sense given the certainty Dallas provides. I’d be happy with him or Walker at the #5 in such a scenario. Short of landing Ryu, it would be hard to do much better at this point.

You’re right, I caught myself on that.

There is a 0% chance Keuchel is taking a 1 year deal. More likely 3/$50M or more. EDIT: Ignore my post. You’re saying Keuchel and another starter signed to a 1 year deal. If so, I agree.

Wheeler >>>>>>>>>>>> Bumgarner

I would 100% supported this deal for the Sox. With the deferred money, this contract would have been easily movable if he didn’t work at the Rate.

Yeah, I was going off career numbers, so there could definitely be some noise there, but I think using last year alone is too small of a sample. At a minimum, there aren’t a ton of red flags that he would be unable to handle DH.

I’ve been since before 2005, just under a different handle. As for the trade, I truly believe it’s one of the worst trade proposals I have ever seen. I’m excluding trades where we overvalue our own prospects, because those happen frequently. It’s an all-in trade that doesn’t even fill any holes for us, as we’d still need two starters and a bat, but would now have ~$40M less to do so with. Look, valuation is subjective, but that’s a move so bad that I would have to question whether Hahn was looking for a future job with the Cubs.