Chicago White Sox

If this is true, hopefully one of the national guys confirms it. I could have sworn DanClarkSports through out some garbage rumors at least year’s Winter Meetings but maybe I’m wrong about that.

You should proud that we missed out on a player that could desperately help our franchise...bravo!

I think this Encarcion tweet has to be compete “these fucks are crazy” misdirection unless like fathom pointed out somehow Abreu is on the move.

Not that it wouldn’t be a fair trade, but I would really hate giving up Cease.

I think he would have most definitely accepted it or struggled to find a halfway decent contract. I mean, how many relievers make $17M or whatever the QO is worth? And LeMahieu would have definitely accepted it and been significantly overpaid.

Where would he play?

Do you have something to support that because I don’t think that’s true? This article suggests his stuff returned to form in Low A with the Nationals: https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-fangraphs-top-200-prospect-list/

Agree on Moncada (he was a 70 FV guy though), but Giolito does not have the velocity that once made him a 65 FV prospect IMO. I think he’s a high variance, potential #3 type starter.

Just to make sure? Why don’t we worry about him finding success in AAA before we even consider him part of the major league mix. His K/BB ratio was 1.11 for Charlotte last year, giving him a major league rotation would be a travesty.

I’m not saying anyone should have assumed it was most definitely going to happen, but the risk of a blown out elbow is par for the course with high velocity pitchers and him needed TJS should surprise nobody.

Adams would get destroyed in the majors.

Hold up now, pitchers blow out their elbows all the time. If you thought that was unlikely to happen at some point with Kopech, then shame on you. No doubt Burger losing a year plus of development time sucks, but flukey injuries (or worse) do happen. Need to have prospect depth to overcome those type of things. Giolito being the worse starter was not according to plan, but he was always going to be a high variance guy. No one should of had any expectations for Fulmer and if you did that’s 100% on you. He was broken well before last year. As for Moncada, I just don’t agre that he’s that “far in”. Last year was his first full season and he was basically a league average despite his K issues. He has really never dealt with failure and IMO this was a much needed part of his development. I’m not going to panic unless he shows no progress with the bat next year.

Oh I definitely agree. I think it’s a unique case where the insane amount of K’s make it easy to overlook his youth, great batter’s eye, and elite physical tools. I still believe he’ll end up being a great player, but the K’s (if not addressed) will prevent him from ever reaching his inane ceiling.

I love this post.

Trust me, Moncada’s season was a bit worrisome, but he still was a league average player despite starting the season as a 22 year old. If anyone deserves more time before rushing to judgment it’s him. I saw enough flashes last year to remain optimistic for now.

I think if Moncada came out and put up a 4 win season I doubt we’re having thie conversation right now.

Bumpy start I can agree with, but “not going to plan” sounds like almost panic inducing levels of worriedness to me and it’s not even close to that point yet.

How so?

Why do you think this is true?

If Kikuchi doesn’t happen (purely my speculation there), I’d love to add Pomeranz on a one-year deal.

No offense Joe, but the fact no one reported something as significant as Machado spending an extra full day & night in Chicago is proof enough. The rumor behind the unnamed bartender just confirmed what the silence already told us. Edit: And I’m not accusing you of lying, but I just don’t believe what you were told is actually accurate based on what’s happened over the past week or so.

You should it back to the original!

Plus other parts of that rumor (Manny staying in Chicago through Wednesday, Abreu being in town for the pitch) were seemingly debunked.

He might end up being a serviceable 4th OF, but that’s the last thing we should be worried about right now and he had nowhere to play next year unless we wanted him to drown in AAA.

Remember all the World Series the Dodgers won the past few years as a result of the blue chip prospects we gave up to land the original hero!!