Chicago White Sox

Cole is not happening, but if I were Hahn I’d try to convince Jerry to add $75M and go get Strasburg.

I really think we are fucked in terms of plan B’s unless we can pull off Ryu and right now there is absolutely nothing linking us to him.

Those offers are way too light based on what Wheeler just landed.

That would be my guess.

I think he will be closer to 3/$70M.

What is a reasonable 3 year deal for Ryu in your view?

And this is what I was afraid of. You miss out on Wheeler and now all the lesser options are ridiculously overpriced. $100M for Bumgarner would be absolute insanity.

The White Sox offered 6% more than the Phillies. To me, it’s really hard to say they did the bare minimum to try and land Wheeler.

Seemed to work with Grandal ?‍♂️

Who though?

This is my absolute worst fear. Go for Ryu instead please.

Don’t mind him, he’s just our homophobic message board troll.

Wow that aged horribly...

100% agree and as I said in an earlier post our offer was about 20% above what most people thought he’d get. Hard to fault them for the miss, but that doesn’t necessarily mean we may not have been better offer throwing another $10M his way. Just depends on what we can do with that money now.

I hate Pnoles as much as anyone, but he’s got a point. Not saying we should be up in arms over the miss, but money is only as valuable as your next best alternative.

Wheeler is so much better than Bumgarner and it’s not even close. He also has like 1,000 less innings on his arm, elite stuff, and better fits our park. And please check out his road splits if he think HRs aren’t a problem with Madison.

I’m just skeptical Ryu will leave L.A. / the West Coast until he does. He’s definitely the one fall back option that could help in the short-run.

What’s this path your referring to? I can’t blame the Sox for losing out on Wheeler when they were the high offer and well above initial expectations, but this most definitely makes competing in 2020 that much harder.

Yeah, playing catch-up on the plane. I’ve been a caught a few times with very out-dated posts...lol.

Not sure how you define TOR stater, but he’s a top 2 starter in 90% of rotations and has untapped potential. He put up 9 fWAR over the past two seasons and can actually get better. He’s not an ace but either was Cole before he went to Houston. We aren’t getting an arm like his for under $200M.

I’m not totally against Bumgarner, but he clearly lacks the TOR upside of Wheeler and his $100M rumored price is scary. But honestly, not sure what else we can do. Ryu is interesting, but if people thought Wheeler was an injury risk I don’t know what they see in this guy.

Give this shit a fucking rest you spaz. The Sox are not an undesirable location, we just lost out because the money was just close enough and the tie-breaker was location. This fucking sucks, but it is what is.

Glad this is leaking. Doesn’t change the fact that we’re in a tough fucking spot now, but at least they were aggressive as fuck and tried to get Wheeler signed.

Great, and when our #2 starter next year is Dallas fucking Keuchel we can all cry as we miss the playoffs.

What in the fuck