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If we should pick up someone I would think Jonathan Van Every. Van Every was projected to miss the rest of the season after undergoing knee surgery in late June. He had a .364 batting average, one home run and three RBI in 11 at-bats with the Red Sox during a short stint in the big leagues earlier this season. The club will hope he makes it through the DFA process and returns to his role at Triple-A Pawtucket. http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds...e_activate.html Our roster currently stands at 38 and Bartolo Colon might be shown the door soon, why not take a flyer on this guy and see what he has for next year?

I want more, but I want us to play like today so it will be deserving as well.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 10:29 PM) In order to get those draft picks, we'd be in the same exact situation we were in with Orlando Cabrera last season. The max you can cut a guy in arbitration is 20%, and most cases go to the players, certainly Dotel would probably be guaranteed an even higher salary than 2009 with the Sox if they offered $4.8 million and he asked for, let's say $6.5-7.0 million, we would have an incredibly high-priced, sometimes inconsistent 7th inning set-up man who, like Vazquez, has great numbers but the reality of him isn't quite as good as it looks on paper with K/BB/IP ratios. KW basically dared Cabrera and his agent to blink, but a lot of the Type A's will have learned their lessons (unless they change the compensation system again because of the economic landscape) and accept arbitration so as not to end up like Varitek, Cabrera, Garland, etc. It took Juan Cruz forever to find a home because of his Type A status this past offseason. Dotel will likely be traded before the end of the season (because you can move him much more easily than Linebrink) and Pena essentially replacing him...supported by Omogrosso, Ely, Link, Santeliz, Nunez, Rodriguez, Russell, etc. I dont deny any of this, but we gave Dotel 13 million for 2 years in the first place, and I know the market has gone down, but he is more consistent then 2/3 of the rest of the bullpen arms in the league, some team will look at this and will offer arbitration and wont care about the outcome - whether having Dotel on for 1 more year at around 6 -7 million, or getting the picks. Many teams are in the hunt this year and someone will overpay, someone usually does.

In my opinion, the minute we draft Phegley to be the future catcher, we knew we would move Flowers to 1st and that made Allen expendable. We got an arm for him where the market right now says that arms are very valuable. Now a Dotel trade can be made easier and we can wait for the right deal because we will be dealing from strength, again. This was a very good trade IMO.

QUOTE (Want2Repeat @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 08:42 PM) So, now we can trade Dotel for a lesser prospect than Allen? That makes no sense. KW isn't a guy who does precursor trades. I don't get this one. I love KW, but he has made a lot of bad trades in his tenure, in addition to the good ones. I don't particularly like the Swisher trade (either time) or the Vasquez trade (either time). Quentin, yes. I just don't get this one; we are a middle reliever away? Dotel will be a type A free agent at the end of the year so KW's asking price will and should be high. We just took a good young arm off the market, how many of those do u think are around or will be available by the trade deadline? We can ask for alot if we are the only ones listening to deals for arms.

In my opinion, Kenny just picked up one of the best relievers available, so he can control the market for relievers by trading someone like Dotel by the deadline. Kenny holds all the cards now, it will be hard for contending teams to pick up a bullpen arm by the deadline, so now we can sit back and wait for all the offers to pour in.

I love this move actually, I wasnt really high on Brandon Allen at all and bullpen depth is not a bad thing.

Congrats, one of the greatest I have ever seen.

QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Jun 2, 2009 -> 04:45 PM) As well as crazy Carl Everett. Timo Perez was the man!

QUOTE (shipps @ Jun 2, 2009 -> 03:52 PM) Welcome aboard! Good post cause I could actually see that happening. Thanks, thtas just the way I see it.

Obviously we would sign him in September when rosters expand and we could stretch out the finale of his career in a 30 day tribute. Who knows, he may play great and we make the playoffs and forces himself onto the team.