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Yeah, Q and Sale's contracts, age, results and the over inflated markets mean that Sale should get the biggest haul ever with Quintana not far behind if packaged with Robertson.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 02:19 PM) David Robertson, if traded, could get a decent haul on his own. If packaged with Sale or Q, Sox could become a top 10 farm system overnight. https://twitter.com/RobHart1980/status/759086422188064769 Q+Robertson to Red Sox Sale to Dodgers Sell off Melky, Frazier, Jones, Jennings, Duke, Shields and Gonzalez for best you can get. Listen on Abreu and Eaton, but need fair value. Then pray.

Is there really a debate going on about the degrees of slavery? Slavery is bad.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 11:05 AM) Basically Miami went stupid Makes Sale and Q's prices even higher.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 10:47 AM) And that's where we are at for entertainment now? In the end, the Angels and White Sox both failed to surround their superstars with enough talent. Kalapse punking everyone in the Gonzalez thread is more "must see" than the White Sox offense. At this rate, Adam Engel will be promoted next week along with Burdi as the next saviors. Doesn't change the fact that this suggested move you ragged on them for not making busted.

lmao Caulfield you were pimping and preening Lincecum every bad start Shields had.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 10:36 AM) Most of the people on this forum. You may not claim to be 'centrist', but you claim to be rational. And as far as I'm concerned, if you stand staunchly on the left OR right, you aren't rational. You're voting records would prove that, too. And I don't mean the bulls*** voting records people claim to have, but their real ones. As an example, I know plenty of people that claim Trump is a moron and they won't vote for him. They're going to tell people they voted for Johnson, but I know for a fact they're voting Trump. I also know quite a few secret Clinton supporters doing the same thing...after Sanders was out, they claimed Johnson or bust...but I know they'll vote for Clinton when it comes too it. And until the day they die, they'll deny it. As another example, anyone that claims Obama is a centrist, doesn't know what a centrist is. Obama isn't a centrist in any regard, not in his supreme court nominations thus far (mayyyyybe his last one, but he only did that because he knows it was his only minute shot at even getting it through, which didn't happen anyway...but sotomeyer couldn't be more leftist), and not in policy. The ONLY thing he's done that's centrist was the ACA and that wasn't because he wanted too...it's because he HAD to compromise it. This guy.

Lmao at any defense or "it's ok cause" of slavery.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 09:40 AM) And Rodon And perhaps Anderson Neither of those are dumb

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 28, 2016 -> 10:59 PM) Well, I have to believe you. You guys are thriving. Kansans/Missourians are not. I was pretty negative. You never know if it's deemed a personal attack. Well I blame him for the stale economy. I think it all adds up. That's a wild line. I think you are right. That is the line of the convention. lol I still live in Missouri.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jul 28, 2016 -> 05:56 PM) I never claimed to know which one was going to burn them, but it will eventually. And which one of these trades for over the hill bums has accomplished anything? Jim Thome worked out pretty well. So did Peavy. Or are the bums only the ones that don't work out?

QUOTE (ron883 @ Jul 28, 2016 -> 04:28 PM) Call is underrated IMO. Why is he below Jameson Fisher? He is younger and has produced better at a tougher position. He should be above Fisher. Fisher is seen as the better hitter, they were raking at the same rate, Fisher got hurt and they have both only been in the org for a few months.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 28, 2016 -> 04:16 PM) Greg come on nobody is banning you for that post don't try and hide behind that martyrdom. You are basically trying to shield yourself from contrary opinions with that. LOL I somehow missed that. A good number of mods are Republicans or voting libertarian. Ahahahahahahahahaha.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jul 28, 2016 -> 04:08 PM) I understand how the draft works OK, I'm just making a point. You don't pony out $700K to a 16 year old unless you think the guy *might* turn into something special. Well right now most posters here are ready to write off Adolfo and he was signed for more and consistently rated highly by FutureSox.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 28, 2016 -> 04:08 PM) What about 50 of your closest relatives and friends? IMO many middle class people are walking on eggshells trying to stay afloat. Yeah, they are as well.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 28, 2016 -> 04:02 PM) Arguing politics is fruitless, but do you guys know what you are saying? Not to be a party pooper but Obama's tenure has seen the ultimate destruction of the middle class (the era of the layoff, furlough, salary cut, total change in businesses' relationship with workers; who the hell is hiring???) as well as close to a new social revolution in terms of shootings, disturbances in cities, race relation problems escalating. Inability to get any government consensus. He's one helluva likeable guy and a great speaker but I think he's been a disaster in terms of President. As a person? Great person, great speaker, appears to be nicest guy ever and that's very important in life, but you guys IMO are drinking the Democratic koolaid so to speak. Economically? Are you and your friends better off now than you were 10 years ago? I think the Average Joe is living paycheck to paycheck and one bad business decision from being homeless. Why the Obama love? disclaimer: I have the right to my opinion on politics as much as any of you Obama supporters who probably want me banned over this post. Infinitely better than 10 years ago.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 28, 2016 -> 03:51 PM) Out of curiosity, if the Shields trade had never happened, what is your best guess as to where you would have ranked Tatis in the Sox system? Northside is better to ask this than me, but I'd say high 30s to mid 40s. QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jul 28, 2016 -> 03:55 PM) well the Sox valued him ($700,000) the same as our #7 prospect curbelo. That's not how Latin America signings work compared to the draft.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 28, 2016 -> 03:47 PM) Anyone who follows the major league organization, not just the major league team, should be aware; perhaps not of Tatis specifically, but of the importance of those A ball players in developing an org. Once again see the Red Sox,Cubs, Dodgers: teams that actually developed great systems. Tatis was a WhiteSox bonus baby. They are still paying $9 million per for a pitcher with bad peripherals. I note with interest that the Jays are only paying $5 million per and Upton was having a good year (and Shields was not, to say the least). I wasn't lamenting tatis in my post anyway. My point is if they can get out of this essentially as a wash, they should take it and run. Considering Hansel Rodriguez made the Blue Jay's FutureSox equivalent's "Others of Note" section on their rankings, he was higher in their organization than Tatis in ours. http://www.minorleagueball.com/2015/12/30/...spects-for-2016 Therefore, you of all people should hate that deal.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jul 28, 2016 -> 03:28 PM) All you have to know is the Sox gave him $700K to sign which is a boatload for this org. Here's how often people mentioned him before June this year. https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Asoxt...2F2016&tbm= Sorry, he was mentioned once. When signed. http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...p;#entry3190653

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jul 28, 2016 -> 03:18 PM) Lot of people thought that was a dumb trade at the time and even more do now, so don't try to bully Greenie. And I guarantee 95% of the people on the board didn't give a s*** about Tatis and probably were writing him off as a White Sox LatAm signing. My guess is a vast majority of the board didn't even know he existed. After the trade many were penciling him in as a future MLB player.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 28, 2016 -> 03:03 PM) If his physical went well, they would have acquired Arrieta. Of course that's a Baltimore physical. Probably 95% of this year's Olympians would fail. Sigh

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 28, 2016 -> 03:10 PM) Until one of those A ball international guys turns out good.....like Montas and several on the Cubs and Redsox. Regardless, just getting that contract off the books would be a plus. The Lat Am prospects have been improving, a couple popping up on the Top 30. I guarantee no one, including you, would have given a damn about Tatis if he wasn't in the Shields deal. As for Shields' contract, it's not bad for the Sox because the Padres are picking up so much.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 28, 2016 -> 01:56 PM) Ranaudo optioned to Charlotte. Well that sucks.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jul 28, 2016 -> 12:42 PM) CBS Sportsline has a story this morning that the Yankees have called Hahn multiple times and are pushing to try to get Sale. Mark Yankees would need to make it a 3-way deal to get better prospects for Sale.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jul 28, 2016 -> 12:28 PM) I could care less if they are god awful next year, they have been god awful since mid-May. At least this way there is a light at the end of the tunnel where they may have some pieces to contend at some point. The Sox as they stand are going to continue to be perpetually a middle of the road team. Yes, I know. My point is outside of Rodon and possibly Fulmer, none of us should give a s*** what's in the rotation next year. Unless they snag Urias and DeLeon from the Dodgers. You're tanking for the top pick and developing arms like Hansen, Burdi and Adams.