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Gio....really?

So, does Harper have the loosest helmet in MLB or what?

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Apr 9, 2013 -> 05:40 PM) Not sure if you're serious or not but this is pure saber rattling. They are just upping to the nth degree. North Korea knows they are isolated and not even China will help them if they do something stupid. Semi-serious. I can see Kim firing on South Korea because he is bats*** insane.

I forgot Hudson

North Korea tells foreigners to leave South Korea. This is bad.

Draft: I want the Bulls to walk away with a wing and big. If they stand pat then Dieng or Withey wth the first + Hardaway in the second would be a fine draft. If they trade up for McLemore, Oladipo or Shabazz then a big like Young or Oriakhi would be fine. As for Rose, any leash he had is gone. If he came back in February and sucked no one would csre. Now he'll get s***.

You know what the match up today is? Peavy vs. Gio A lot of fans wish we kept Gio. Now, to wite with the forecast. QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 31, 2012 -> 01:22 AM) I read the topic. Didn't care about anything else anybody else has said, so if what I say is aforementioned, then many kudos. - It depends upon which time you were talking about. Had the Sox not traded for Jim Thome, they'd have been left with an 02-04ish offense, hoping and praying that Frank Thomas could stay healthy. They'd still be destroyed by great right handed pitching, and as a result probably would have only won 87 games instead of 90. That's IF they had kept Thomas. Had they still let Thomas walk, the best case scenario I can see is that they would have ended up with Nomar Garciaparra. They still lose 3 wins. That's at the very best. Now, if you're an old school type who believes that protection in the lineup helps generate production from other players, than perhaps Jermaine Dye doesn't hit 44 home runs, perhaps Paul Konerko doesn't put up the exact same numbers as MVP Justin Morneau, and perhaps other pieces from the lineup fall as well. Perhaps the Sox lose 10 wins, are ridiculously far out of it at the break, and deal Freddy Garcia for 2 other prospects. And then never get Gio back, and after another very bad year in 2008, the Sox fire both Williams and Guillen and hire Dan Evans and Gene Lamont to run the team. I think we all know how that one goes. Now, had they not traded him the second time, which is the one I think you are getting at, having never read a single word of your post, then the Sox don't end up with Nick Swisher. Now, depending upon how strictly and strongly you believe in the statistic WAR, and whose definition you believe most in (baseballreference or fangraphs), the Sox are either better off without Swisher (-0.5 bWAR) or Nick Swisher was worth more than 1 win for the 2008 Chicago White Sox (1.3 fWAR). I give much more credence towards fWAR but I'm a homer, so do as you please. But since, in this revisionist's history, we are using that, and we are using it to mean Nick Swisher was literally worth 1+ more wins than the average Joe they could have put in place, then what we would have seen would have been DeWayne Wise putting up 2 WAR in August alone and -3 WAR in the months outside of that, given general estimation. On top of that, even had the Sox found a perfect replacement level player to play instead of Swisher, who would have put up exactly a 0 fWAR, the Sox would have given up the division lead in the second game in the Metrodome, the final win against Cleveland wouldn't have mattered, they'd have never played the makeup game against Detroit, and the blackout game would have never taken place, thus, no Griffey/Thome/Danks show, and we would have never seen the batting champion-to-be bunt in his last plate appearance of the year attempting to get on base. At that point in time, 2009 would have been far more disappointing, and the Sox almost certainly would have never had the resources to sign Dayan Viciedo during the 2008-09 offseason. They'd be in a full blown rebuilding mode, still with Dan Evans and Gene Lamont in charge. Going into the 4th year of Reinsdorf's always too generous length of stay, the Sox would be coming off their 2nd straight 90+ loss season with an absolute garbage product on the field but hope beyond hope in the minors with a top 10 system in the league. But atleast they'd still have Gio f***in Gonzalez. PEAVY VS. GONZALEZ PEAVY GOT THIS ON LOCK

Edit: Using this for the gamethread, accidentally bump this thread.

My current facebook status. Don't know why I felt the need to post it here, but I did.

My name is Quinarvy and I approve this message.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 8, 2013 -> 01:50 PM) Yoenis Cespedes signed for $36 mill. Soler got $30 million (from the Cubs). Contreras got $32 million on his initial contract (from the Yankees). Several 16 year olds received upwards of $6-7 million. These aren't small investments and they are incredibly risky. Also, the idea Texas as a small market team is flat out wrong. They're spending $122.5 mill on their MLB roster alone this year. Cincinnati is at $99.1 mill. Oakland was one small market team, but they've shown a willingness to spend internationally in the past. Tampa Bay, Cleveland, and San Diego are three quick examples of small payroll teams that will benefit from this. There are inevitably other examples as well. Beyond that, if there is a competitive balance to amateur free agents within the US and Canada, why shouldn't there be the same balance for amateur international free agents? Hell, the NBA requires Europeans who want to come over to go through the draft process even if they played professionally. It simply doesn't make sense to allow the possibility of a monopoly on a single market, which is exactly what the previous rules allowed. Personally, it sounds more like you have a problem with a spending cap than you do a worldwide draft. Baseball has been and really is still the one sport where you can allocate a lot of money to a 2nd or 3rd or 10th round pick (although I'm not as famiilar with hockey's rules). Nowadays, you just can't spend as much. Also, don't forget Chapman.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Apr 8, 2013 -> 11:42 AM) That screen grab that someone posted during the Royals game, "Konerko Getz Kuntz" just showed up in an email. Looks like it's gone viral. Bet PK gets a laugh out of it. Rusty Kuntz.

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Apr 8, 2013 -> 12:29 PM) Except this isn't true, unless you want to argue that Cespedes, Chapman, and Sano were all signed by big markets. Further, the Rangers are probably the biggest player internationally, and I would hardly call them a big market franchise (nor would I argue they're small, but you get my point). Most international talent isn't being gobbled by the NY/BOS/LA's of the baseball world. An international draft is just another way for the owners to hold onto more cash and pay international talent less than they are worth. If you want to side with the poor multi-millionaire owners, be my guest. I'd rather see the players make more money. There is a financial incentive for all of these kids in Latin America, and to reduce that hurts the sport. It's one of the reasons why kids in states are now playing Football and Basketball because the shot and quick money when you're young (nevermind full scholarhips to college vs college baseball players only getting partial shares). At least we're at step one of admitting them you have a problem. And lets define "big bucks" here. A few million on high ceiling talent is "big bucks" yet spending 4 times that on average players in the free agent market is apparently good business. So you're mad that they won't shell out guaranteed money to guys who may never see the major leagues? So if Viciedo had completely busted, never made the MLB roster, and pocketed $10M, you'd be OK with that?

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 8, 2013 -> 12:10 PM) Axelrod beat Felix with probably the worst lineup we can throw together trotted out there. It's like I said in the Gamethread. Axelrod don't give a f***.

Because then Paint it Black can't complain about the Sox not spending big bucks on foreign players

I'll be going 2 or 3 times, a far cry from the 7-9 I normally go to. But I won't be home this summer. I'll go to a few at Kauffman.

I like coming home and seeing a win in the column. I know homers aren't a good thing to base your offense on...but my god.

Don't have time for a really elaborate one...so... WHITESOX.COM TO THE RESCUE IN HERE SALE GONNA WIN THIS s***

Josie's been on vacation this year so far. Gordon is gonna keep it that way. Josie's on a vacation far away White Sox homer and this games OVER So many things that I want to say We need bombs from the heart of the order I just wanna win this game today I don't wanna lose this game today Coop ain't got many friends left to talk to Robin needs to run when they're in trouble You Paulie'd do anything for you Stay the night but keep it undercover I just wanna win this game today I don't wanna lose this game today Beckham's stopped his hands from shakin' 'Cause somethin' in his mind is makin' sense It's been awhile since we saw this player THE MOTHERf***ING BACON SLAYER As Reed is leaving he'll close the door King Felix forget what I told you Just 'cause you're paid doesn't mean you won Go find a shoulder to cry upon I just wanna win this game today, yeah I don't wanna lose this game today Yeah, I just wanna win this game today I don't wanna lose this game today I just wanna win this game today I don't wanna lose this game today SOX FELL YESTERDAY AS NATE JONES LOST FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER. T-FLOW WAS T-STOPPED AT THE END OF THE GAME. BUT WHO GIVES A f***? THE MARINERS ARE STILL s***. THEY AIN'T GONNA DO NOTHING. HUMBER. PERFECT'D. THESE. GUYS. SO, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN? SOX GONNA LET THE TIGERS JUMP THEM? HELL f***ING NO. ARE THEY ABOUT TO MAKE A PUSH TO GLORY? YES. BECAUSE f*** ALL THE HATERS. THIS. IS. WHITE SOX. BASEBALL. AND NOW, FOR YOUR CHICAGO WHITE SOX. IN THIS CORNER THE MAN WITH AN AXE TO GRIND DYLAAAAAAAAAN AXELROD (0-0, 0.00) AND IN THIS CORNER THE KING WITHOUT A RING OR CROWN FELIX. HERNANDEZ. 1-0, 0.00 See, he and Axelrod had the same ERA. Axelrod: "Yeah, I know who is there," he said. "I'm just pitching against the lineup, so I feel like if I go out and put up a good effort, we are going to have a chance to win." AXELROD DON'T GIVE A f***

Just noticed... Already gave out #12...

YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME

Kepp has looked like ass so far.

Nice relay by Gordo...but not looking bueno.

Damnit

I like Nate Jones