Quin

I really enjoy this year's Gordon.

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Greg will not be amused if he's not claimed.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 13, 2013 -> 02:21 PM) A lot of the things I say on here come true. But only Dick Allen has pointed that out on occasion for me. As far as Dunn and Rios. Yes they are my whipping boys for this pathetic baseball team. And yes, Paulie's dropoff has hurt the team just as much. I guess I give Paulie more wiggle room because he had 4-5 really good years in a row. Dunn pretty much was the worst player in the history of mankind for a long long time in Sox uniform. What's the lowest he got that one year, .145, .150? And a lot you say (and the stuff you are more vocal about) has not even come close. Marlins as champs because of Ozzie for example And nice hyperbole about Dunn. Worst ever? Not even close. It didn't help that when he was bad, the selfish manager constantly set him up to fail.

MOBAs make me miss Age of Empires.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 13, 2013 -> 02:07 AM) The Sox schizophrenia (sp?) has killed the value of some of its players. Nobody's gonna take Dunn for 10 mill a year because when he's been bad, he's been laughably bad. A GM would be trusting Adam to show up in good shape and not be the bad Dunn. Are you confident Dunn will hit over .100 next April/May again? If you were a GM would you risk that for 10 mill a year?? Ditto Rios. He had no value in trade because when he decided he didn't want to play, his loafing was unacceptable. Crazy team we have in Chicago. If Dunn was valued at all, some big money contender would have claimed him. Seriously, did Rios or Dunn run over your dog?

QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 12, 2013 -> 10:02 PM) For people that hated the Dunn deal, it's a little funny to see how eager everyone jumping on a guy who we would give twice as much money for a lot less certainty (and we see how far certainty gets you w/ Dunn) Ding ding ding. I want Abreu, but let's stop throwing around crazy numbers.

I just realized that we officially acquired Garcia. Thanks Astros for not being dicks!

If they somehow get rid of Dunn and Danks, they will have a whopping $18M committed to 2014 (not counting arbitration, rookie deals, or extensions). I'd talk to Alexei and Dayan and see what they think about Abreu and try to use them in a sales pitch. The Sox need a marketable bat and a 1B, so it seems like it'd be a perfect fit. Just how much money do you risk on it if you're the Sox? Higher than Puig? Is it worth the risk?

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Aug 12, 2013 -> 02:32 AM) I think White Sox brass views Garcia as the 1B/DH of the future. You would think wrong.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 12, 2013 -> 12:48 AM) Posted this in the Puig thread just yesterday... ...then a day later this comes out??? GASP! It's fate...I want this guy.... Says he'll get more than the 7/42 Puig got and that is totally fine with me. Hell I'd go 7/56-63, or whatever if I had to. Yes there's some risk involved but there's been a good enough trend of Cubans coming over here and doing good things. This guy put up better numbers than Puig and Cespedes. He could be a franchise changer. Oh god, I salivate at the thought of signing both he and Cano. The ultimate high risk, high reward.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 11, 2013 -> 08:16 PM) Is he a better CFer than DeAza? That's all I need to know...wasn't Eaton another name being thrown out there earlier this year (not sure if any of the DBacks' names were realistic). No, but Owings is a better SS than De Aza. If it's Reed going for Owings though, you need another B prospect thrown in. No Sergio for Molina crap.

QUOTE (BaseballNick @ Aug 11, 2013 -> 08:13 AM) Come on. Do you seriously think AZ would ever consider that? Owings is blocked and the Dbacks apparently want a closer. So really, it'd be Reed. But then I'd need more than Owings.

QUOTE (Noonskadoodle @ Aug 11, 2013 -> 03:58 PM) How can a team in the hunt in the AL NOT want Dunn? He has been incredible for quite some time now. Cause Ozzie Guillen didn't want him and Ozzie won in 2005.

Build that trade stock!

Over/under on Twins HRs this inning: 2.5

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Aug 10, 2013 -> 08:05 PM) I want them to have as much payroll flexibility as possible going into the winter to explore short-term contact and in-house options to improve the offense. One would think the offense has to be better than this year. I think the pen though will take a step back. So avoiding big deals like Morales, McCann, and Ellsbury? Or just Ellsbury?

Quin's insane speculation: Personally, I'd want them to get something of value (such as a good RHP prospect) for Alexei, something for Dunn by eating money or just sending off his contract, and Danks for pure salary relief. The Sox would only have $8M in contracts (not counting arbitration, rookie contracts, and extensions). Then I'd like them to turn all the massive savings we have...and promptly spend it by extending Quintana and then talking to Gordon, Reed and De Aza about extensions. I'd try to Nate Jones for Chris Owings. Then sign McCann, Morales, and somehow Ellsbury. Considering the Sox would have so much money to play with, you might actually be able to pull this off and fill out the bullpen. Once the season comes around, the Sox should be able to pick Carlos Rodon or Tyler Beede in the draft. This lineup: CF - Ellsbury 2B - Gordon 1B - Morales C - McCann DH - Viciedo LF - De Aza RF - Garcia SS - Owings/L. Garcia 3B - Semien/Gillaspie with this staff Sale Quintana Santiago Johnson/FA Rienzo/FA Reed, Leesman, Webb, Lindstrom in the bullpen. It puts a lot of hope on Rienzo and Johnson unless you want to sign a vet like Josh Johnson, Floyd, Haren, or Ervin Santana to a cheap or reasonable deal and hope for Coop magic.

I was gonna include a poll, but that would limit discussion. What do you want to see the Sox do this offseason? Try to clear more salary and ship out Alexei, Dunn, and Danks and then let prospects develop? Go for the #1 pick in 2015? Keep those three and get a few big name free agents (McCann, Morales) and hope for the best? Keep those three until the deadline, sign some stop gaps, then trade that trio and the stop gaps? Dump them and sign a bunch of FAs, hope for a 2005 like turn around. Other? (My annual "Quin's insane speculation" will be posted below, so as not to clutter the top post).

QUOTE (bbilek1 @ Aug 10, 2013 -> 04:56 PM) Why? He hates the White Sox. He stopped speaking to Crain when Jesse signed with us.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Aug 10, 2013 -> 04:35 PM) If the Sox could sign McCann and Morneau and put together a few bullpen arms they could be a contender next season. The problem is convincing them to sign with the Sox. Morneau will never, ever sign with the White Sox. Go for McCann and Morales, if you can dump Danks or Dunn, go for Ellsbury as well.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 9, 2013 -> 09:49 PM) Thornton Marte Hermanson Cotts Linebrink for 3/4 a season.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Aug 9, 2013 -> 09:54 PM) I have what I feel might be an "irrational exuberance" about the future of Gordon Beckham in a White Sox uniform. But I'm really enjoying watching him perform both at the plate and with the glove these days. Hopefully he has finally turned the corner! If Gordon has truly turned around, it's good for the rebuild.

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I liked him. He wasn't a leader...but not everyone is.