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People were saying Gordon would be an MVP and Jeter loved him. So, him.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 17, 2012 -> 01:55 AM) Look, this issue is very simple IMO. Restrict the rules on weapons designed to wipe out dozens, hundreds of people at a time. Why the f*** do these weapons need to be out there in society? I mean, grow up, Americans. We don't need weapons of war on our streets and in the hands of mothers who like weapons, weapons that can be stolen by mothers' sons where they kill 20 little angels. Props to you Greg.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 11:23 PM) Westboro Baptist Church Home Page www.godhatesf**s.com/ - 网页快照 - 翻译此页您已公开地对此项 +1。 撤消Web Site of Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, KS. Pastor: Fred Phelps. God hates f**s. God hates f**-enablers. Therefore, God hates america and this... Unsurprisingly, their website now seems to be down. Greg lives not so far from their church, Lawrence to Topeka is just a hop, skip and a jump. The quidditch community is discussing possibly doing a tournament in Topeka as a protest of the WBC. We most likely won't though as it would only take one hot-head hitting a WBC bastard to make things really bad. I'll just let Anonymous destroy them.

QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 11:08 AM) After Dark Knight Rises, this is the one I've been waiting for in 2012. Well, Great Gatsby too, but that was pushed back. The Hobbit was another movie I was really looking forward to. Saw it last night, and greatly enjoyed it. I figured it would be good, but it surpassed my expectations. I'm happy there are two more of these coming. It's relatively early, and I'm still kind of digesting/processing what I watched, but I've never seen a 3D movie. Since I'm planning on seeing it again, I might take a gander at the 3D version of this movie.

http://vimeo.com/55671721 Anonymous video aimed towards Westboro Baptist Church. They've pissed everyone off in the past, but they've opened pandora's box this time.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57559468-...newtown-threat/ Nevermind, it was real.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 08:27 PM) Please tell me their personal information is not actually at the page you linked. It wasn't but the link didn't work there, so it might be bogus. So I deleted it.

https://www.facebook.com/events/458590647531997

Hell, I'm crying as Obama reads these names.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 07:36 PM) i'm pretty sure they crossed the line years ago. nothing is too low for them to do. I mean at this point where there finally is a petition against them.

Seems like the Westboro Baptist Church finally crossed the line. They plan to picket the children's funerals. And now America is pissed. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/l...H2d#thank-you=p Sign this petition to have them legally recognized as a hate group.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 04:01 PM) Link. There might be people at this site who live in Cedar Lake, this is in Lake County IN, just south of Merrillville and East of Crown Point. Holy s***.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 03:16 PM) I'm just not going to send my kids to public school. Teachers are spoiled rotten by their unions, they're f***ing terrible at their jobs and they clearly aren't safe. Besides, all public schools really are anymore is indoctrination centers to send kids for a life in the Democratic party (sure as hell dont teach math or science worth a damn anymore). Just forsake our broken public school system and you'll be fine. I know my math and science just fine and less scandals and such happened at my school than the local private school.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 03:08 PM) My heart goes out to this dad who lost his daughter. What a classy person he is. Interesting, typical God vs. no God arguments in the comments section below the article. http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/16/us/connectic....html?hpt=hp_c2 Damn.

wow, the refs hate Jeffery.

Wow these refs.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 02:38 PM) Good article. I have no idea if there is a God or not. I can't prove it. I believe there is one and celebrate at an organized religion (my choice is Catholic), but I don't see how either side can say with absolute certainty there is a God. It cannot be proven either way as far as I can tell. I know some atheists and have nothing against their position because there may be a God, there may not be a God. Who the f*** can prove it either way?? No one.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 02:32 PM) Drugs just magically appear in the hands of kids? Sometimes yes, I wonder how the hell people get all this s***. But I think his point was that no one is like, directly injecting people with heroin and stuff.

Well, that was pretty damn stupid.

10 Things Christians and Atheists Can (and Must) Agree On

And because Reddy cited the Hobbit earlier. Samwise Gamgee: I know. It's all wrong. By rights we shouldn't even be here. But we are. It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo; the ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end... because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was, when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it’s only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines, it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you, that meant something, even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn't. They kept going. Because they were holding on to something. Frodo Baggins: What are we holding on to, Sam? Samwise Gamgee: That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it's worth fighting for.

Around noon, someone called the church phone, and said, “I’m going to kill everyone there. My friend didn’t finish the job.” Church officials tried to keep the caller on the line, asking him to repeat himself. He did, making the same threat in the same words. Yes...he is the exception...not the rule...

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 01:51 PM) Your second response was reasoned. But see what your first response was?? The one that was completely loud, WRONG and full of it? That's what we have in America today. take a look at what you wrote. You didn't consider any of the guy's points about evil. You jumped all over a somber toned article that brought up some points that people like me believe to be true. A dissention of opinion. This is done a million times over in this country. Nobody has respect for anybody else's beliefs. There can be a discussion on NOTHING anymore. For you to get that out of that article, just depresses me because I know there's no hope. It goes on everywhere much worse than even what you wrote. We truly are doomed as a society. This proves it for me. It's going to get so much worse. Please go build your bunker deep underground and stay there, as for this article... ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________ At times like this we are told we must "come together." Yes. When you think about, we don't, as a nation, come together much any more except in tragedy. Ok...didn't he just say we're supposed to come together in times like this? We used to come together as a nation during the Olympics, when we rooted for Americans. But in recent years we are too often lectured about the jingoism in rooting for America. No...we still do that. That's why Shaun White, Michael Phelps, Ryan Lochte and company are superstars. We used to come together as we sent men and women in to space, but we can't much afford to do that any more and we don't. How is that coming together? We can't afford space missions at the moment. How are we supposed to come together on this one? When we come together for most sporting events, we find ourselves divided among friends among teams. Ok, I'm guessing this guy never has been a sports fan. We come together as a nation every four years to inaugurate the President, but it is as bitter and divisive as every. As every? And it's always been "bitter and divisive." You know, back in the God-fearing days when we had a civil war over it. It's been like that forever. I don't know what good old days this guy is reminiscing about. This map will showy you how truly "divisive" this f*** wants us to, but we aren't. About the only time we ever come together as a nation anymore is when savage tragedy happens. When men fly planes into tall buildings or gun down children or shoot up a movie theater, we gather, pray, and cry. Yes...because we need to. Nations don't get unified over everything unless their dictatorships... It is not healthy for a nation that its only acts of coming together are acts of tragedy, or even charity stemming from tragedy. I really don't understand where he wants us to come together. In ways that we haven't...like...ever? Our nation once shared a God who we all prayed to. Increasingly, the loudest voices in the nation are hostile to that God and those who worship him. The conversation at times of evil is immediately drown out by political opportunists seeking to drive their agenda. The news channels meditate on the nature of gun violence and gun restrictions or what other restrictions or laws can ever be used. This is so hilariously wrong. The loudest voices are those who still worship God and want everyone else to. There are plenty of non-Christians who are vocal about not wanting it shoved down their throat though. So who is worse, those who don't want religion shoved on them or those who believe that their religion is right and therefore everyone else needs to follow it in everyday life. Also, both the left and right are guilty of this. People force their agenda and please don't kid me that Christian's never do. We do that, in part, because in times of helplessness it makes us feel like we can do something. f*** us for coming together in tragedy because that's when we really need it...? But we can do nothing in the face of evil until we confront evil itself. Um...what? So we need to become totalitarian? The tragedy unfolding today is not an act of the insane, but an act of evil. That evil may drive the shooter insane, but in focusing on the insanity we lose focus on the evil. Yeah, no, I think we all agree he's an evil son of a b****. There is really real good and there is really real evil in the world. Each time I have written that here on this site a vocal group of secularists and atheists have loudly chimed in to ridicule me for doing so. Probably because he's implying that not believing in God is the reason we have evil in the world. They'll do so again. But in this small window America has a real moment to assess why it is that it is careening out of control morally and socially. In that small window, instead of discussing the politics or the laws, we should discuss the evil and the good and the God from whom we have, as a nation. drifted so far. So, we need to shove our religion on everyone and discuss why Christians are right and everyone else is wrong. Got it. It is not healthy for a nation to only come together at times like this. It is not healthy for a nation to come together at tragedy so far removed from God. Ok, so everyone needs to be Christian. And we shouldn't come together unless God tells us too.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 16, 2012 -> 01:40 PM) You can't have a sane discussion about ANYTHING. Read the article caufield posted and we'll see the reaction. The good, normal people of Soxtalk will mock me for believing in God; they will not consider any positions in that article about "evil." Like the article stated, the loudest voices in our country don't want to hear anything except their own position. And meanwhile? Like the article stated our country can't come together on ANYTHING except feeling grief in times like this. Whatever happened to having an open mind? I DON'T KNOW GREG? HOW BOUT YOU TELL ME? THE ARTICLE IMPLIES THAT WE ARE A NATION LOST BECAUSE WE ALL DON'T FOLLOW THE CHRISTIAN BELIEF. BUT BECAUSE YOU AGREE WITH THAT YOU GLOSS OVER IT. CLEARLY THE MOTHERf***ER IN THE STORY IS A BASTARD. BUT HE IS THE EXCEPTION NOT THE RULE.