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Like I said, who cares about BABIP if he has skills to be a .300 hitter? You’re overthinking this shit for no apparent reason and it’s making you sound like a troll. Someone could be a .300 hitter with a .310 BABIP and others could be a .300 hitter if they are hitting .350 in BABIP. Both are sustainable depending on their skill set. Madrigal is the first outcome.

I find it ironic that you mentioned earlier average career WAR for top 5 picks are 5-7 WAR and it’s a relatively good bet both Madrigal and Vaughn will exceed those marks yet you’re still not happy. It’s perfectly fine to pick the low risk/medium reward type when they’re available, given how hard it is to even produce a single MLB’er in the draft. Constantly pushing for the high risk/high reward type regardless of other players that are available is such a meatball fan post.

Then you don’t know what BABIP is really used for. While it’s true league average BABIP is around .300, it is also heavily dependent on the player’s skill set where a swing to either side of the scale would still make it sustainable. It is best used to compare a player’s performance from year to year whether then looking at the number in isolation and making assumptions based on it. So arguing Madrigal is going to have a low BABIP literally means rat’s ass because it doesn’t suggest he couldn’t sustain .300 BA with a low BABIP. For the record, it isn’t a stretch to imagine Nicky could enjoy a higher BABIP than you suggest as the lowest outcome for BABIP is a medium hit line drive, follow by softly hit LD, which he’s fairly capable of doing.

You have no idea what BABIP is used for do you? BABIP by itself does not tell you anything about a player (unless it’s abnormally high or low). And it literally doesn’t matter that he’s a .300 hitter with a low BABIP, as long as he’s a .300 hitter.

Who gives a rat’s ass about BABIP if it is sustainable with his skill set?

Let’s see, you want to pick players that has power AND positional versatility (and good hit tool too, really) and is going to pan out (since you b****ed about 1st round picks not panning out). On top of that, a player who does turn out to be Ichiro or Miggy is a failure. You’re really more delusional than Greg sometimes.

Vaughn has power and Madrigal has GG caliber positional versatility, and has 2 or more plus tools.

No. He was giving Nick credit for taking the BPA with the Madrigal and Vaughn yet you’re trashing those picks. You complain about not having any players pan out from a draft yet also b****es about picks that will almost surely pan out. So which one is it? Look this isn’t the NBA where the best players are always pick inside the top 5 so trying to critical of not taking the high ceiling/high risk type is just dumb. There is nothing wrong with taking a perennial 3 WAR player with a top 5 pick.

If Robert had shown better plate discipline and more track record for success, he’d be in consideration. Right now it’s pretty much unanimous Franco is #1.

Same. It’s a thought but having Robert in CF would allow us to fully utilize his talent.

I don’t think he’s played RF professionally and his arm grades out to only average. Robert OTOH has a cannon and could slide to RF. I think Benitendi is passable at CF.

There are only about 10-15 pitchers in MLB at a given point in time that you could consider true "aces". Fact is not every team will have an ace. If the question is if Giolito could be a top 30 pitcher in this league, I think without a doubt he could. But even then some people wouldn't consider him an ace.

Sox had 2 DSL teams back in 2007 and 2008 seasons. It may or may not had to do with the extra revenues we were pulling in post-WS. For comparison sakes, Cubs have added a 2nd DSL team in 2008 and a 2nd AZL team in 2018. With the rising cost of MLB contracts, even getting a single cost-controlled MLB player for 6 years pays for yearly cost of a short season league team. I don't see a reason we don't why we wouldn't considering expanding. I hope it's something Getz is already pitching to JR on. Orgs # of MILB teams Astros 9 Cardinals 9 Cubs 9 Diamondbacks 9 Dodgers 9 Mets 9 Phillies 9 Pirates 9 Rays 9 Brewers 8.5 Indians 8.5 Athletics 8 Blue Jays 8 Giants 8 Padres 8 Red Sox 8 Rockies 8 Royals 8 Tigers 8 Yankees 8 Angels 7 Braves 7 Mariners 7 Marlins 7 Nationals 7 Orioles 7 Rangers 7 Reds 7 Twins 7 White Sox 7

Ben Bailey gets talked about a lot, but the DSL team has lowkey three pretty intriguing catchers - Mendoza, Betancourt, and Benavides. All are posting good BB, K and ISO %. Their CF Laureano is Laureano is another kid to keep an eye on.

Dude probably got his info from the same O’hare bartender who said Manny Machado came for a second visit some odd months.

Most likely not. They’d need to extend Lauri to prevent him from hitting RFA, and that extension kicks in 21-22 Season. Even if they don’t extend Lauri (which could mean Lauri hadn’t shown them enough), Young and Sato has over $10M in partially guaranteed money on the books in 21-22, and factoring in another ~$10 mil in rookie contracts over the next 2 drafts takes them out of running for 2 max deals.

The way you started this post.

Not sure how I feel about the trade for the Rockets. And looks like Paul to the Lakers is finally happening.

Gut punch when stars in their prime don’t even consider coming home

I was implying front office and ownership (what Jenks posted a few weeks ago made a lot of sense).

I want to be hopeful of 2021 but Bulls haven't been a serious contender in the FA market since 2010. We can make excuses and blame it on being a young team in rebuild mode, but even when we were making playoffs with Rose, Noah and Butler and had cap spaces we were never in serious running. There has to be something more than winning that detracts FAs from Chicago.

If Robert rakes these next 3 weeks in Charlotte, which I think he likely will, I would call him up after TDL. Madrigal on the other hand could use another month in Bham and spend rest of year in Charlotte, then the first few weeks next season. Difference is I think Robert is someone who needs more seasoning at MLB level to make adjustments. If he called up the last 2 months and struggles but comes back next year and sets up himself up for a solid rookie year, that's a win for us. Madrigal, with how fundamentally sound he is, shouldn't need much time to get adjusted at the highest level, I'd rather play the service clock game with him.

Absolutely. And we may not be done if raBBit's math is right from the last page, we still have about $67K left for Trenkle or Britt. Britt I think is a definite no, but I haven't seen solid confirmation Trenkle is going to school. Would $192K be enough to change his decision?

This helps explain BABIP from a quality of contact perspective. Hard hit data is not available in MILB, but I think soft GB and FB are the most common occurrence for Madrigal right now. If he becomes more a line drive hitter, even making soft to medium contact would help boost his BABIP tremendously https://www.fantraxhq.com/sabermetrics-quality-contact-babip/