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wouldnt it be ironic if Bush wins the Popular Vote and loses the Electoral College.

http://electoral-vote.com/ just thought i'd let everyone know that this website, which started 5 pages of conversation, now shows Kerry ahead in the election.

how my life has changed over the past 4 years is really of no significance in this arguement... one thing that does bother me over the past 4 years... Dow January 2001: 11,000 Dow September 2004: 10,341.16 Equaling a loss of nearly 6%. For those looking to retire soon, or are looking to build up their retirement portfolio, a 6% drop over 4 years isnt the way to do it. While we all know that the DOW Average does not equal how the economy is doing... this certainly says something.

my lifestyle has actually gotten better since Bush came into office. Put an asterik * next to that however since I had just left college and got my first job.

my call Bush 269 Kerry 269 Everything falls in the same way as in 2000, except that Kerry picks up victories in both New Hampshire and West Virgina.

what does the BLR constitute a recession? I think of things as a roller coaster, no matter how high you go, at some point theres a correction and things start to dip... on the flip side... no matter how low you go, at some point theres a correction and things start to tick up.

speaking of guns.. i would love to see a shooting contest between Bush and Kerry. Who do you think would win and why?

on a side note, I love on the administration claims that they inherited "The Clinton Recession" I don't remember GHW Bush saying that he inherited "The Reagan Recession"

Bush Blames 'Junk Lawsuits' for Job Woes 38 minutes ago By PETE YOST, Associated Press Writer President Bush (news - web sites) and rival John Kerry (news - web sites) on Tuesday offered different ways to boost the sluggish job market, the president calling for legal reforms to help workers and businesses while his Democratic opponent proposed ending tax breaks for companies that send jobs overseas. Kerry, moving aggressively in the face of polls showing his candidacy lagging, used the latest forecast of a record budget deficit to bolster his contention that Bush is leading the country in the wrong direction. The Bush administration described the lower deficit prediction as positive economic news. In his second day of campaigning in Missouri, a state he won in 2000 by just 79,000 votes out of 2.3 million cast, Bush told a rally in suburban Kansas City that Kerry had stood in the way of legal reforms that would help generate jobs and protect workers and businesses. He called Kerry "one of the trial lawyers' most reliable allies in the Senate." Bush, linking Kerry policies to campaign donations from trial attorneys, said "junk lawsuits" hinder job creation and cost the economy more than $230 billion a year. With the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (news - web sites) predicting this year's federal deficit will reach $422 billion — less than earlier forecasts but still the highest ever — Kerry told supporters in North Carolina that the deficit represented other bad Bush choices. "Only George W. Bush could celebrate over a record budget deficit of $422 billion, a loss of 1.6 million jobs and Medicare premiums that are up by a record 17 percent," Kerry said. "W stands for wrong — the wrong direction for America." Kerry said he would end tax breaks for companies that outsource overseas, a potent issue in North Carolina and other states that have suffered job losses. "Because of George Bush (news - web sites)'s wrong choices, this country is continuing to ship good jobs overseas — jobs with good wages and good benefits," Kerry said. Kerry's criticism on the economic front came a day after he leveled harsh criticism at Bush over the war in Iraq (news - web sites), declaring that the president had sent U.S. troops to the "wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time." Bush dismissed Kerry's remarks on the war as yet another switch in position by a senator who originally voted to give the president the authority to act in Iraq. "No matter how many times Senator Kerry changes his mind, it was right for America then and it's right for America now if Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) is no longer in power," the president told supporters Monday in Poplar Bluff, Mo. Kerry's plan to deal with the problem of outsourcing jobs would eliminate rules allowing companies to defer paying taxes on income earned by their foreign subsidiaries until they bring the profits back to the United States. Kerry says the elimination would ensure that American companies will be taxed on their foreign subsidiaries' profits just like they are taxed on their domestic profits. "He's actually encouraging the export of American jobs," Kerry said of Bush's support for the current rules. The president's plan for dealing with job losses is through job training, increased funding for community colleges and creation of "opportunity zones" of reduced taxes. Bush said the jobs picture is improving, largely due to tax cuts that he said have helped push down the unemployment rate to 5.4 percent. The economy "is strong and is getting stronger," Bush told a Labor Day crowd in Poplar Bluff. Political analysts point to one potential problem for Kerry in Missouri — lingering bitterness in the Democratic Party's ranks over a primary election that ousted incumbent Democratic Gov. Bob Holden. Kerry needs a huge turnout of loyal Democrats to win the state in November. Missouri Democrats see their ticket as generating a lot of enthusiasm among voters, with women running for governor, U.S. Senate and secretary of state. The Kerry campaign sees Bush's frequent trips to Missouri as an indication the campaign sees trouble ahead.

i believe that GWB did use coke back in the day. he's a self-admitted adict (wont say to what) who's life was a complete waste until 40 when he found god and changed it all around. just like a junkie who made it off the streets, the fact that he's changed his life and made something of himself is very commendable. However the fact that he was a wasteland until 15 years ago and is only where he is today because of his father... doesn't really make me want to stand up and support the guy as our leader. I'd rather have a self-made guy who knows what its like to start with nothing and end with something. (And I'm not saying that Kerry is that guy...John Edwards on the other hand)

Let me clarify.. Time needs to do a better job polling because I dont believe that Kerry had a 7% lead a month ago and I don't believe that Bush has anywhere near a 10% lead right now. It was probably Kerry by 4% last month and Bush by 3% now.

1 month ago, Time Magazine showed Kerry with a 7% lead. Does anyone honestly believe that he lost 20% of the vote in the last month when there are only about 5% undecideds out there? I think Time Magazine needs to do a better job polling.

Actually I'll make this even more confusing... PollingReport.com National Trial Heat Summary Full survey details are available here (plus match-ups with Nader, reelect questions, etc.). BUSH vs. KERRY: Among likely voters; with leaners, where available. (See registered voters.) SURVEY NAME BUSH KERRY Margin End Date Zogby 46 44 2 9/2/04 American Research Group 9/1 48 47 1 9/1/04 ABC/Washington Post 49 49 n/a 8/29/04 ICR 8/29 46 50 4 Y Time [without leaners] 8/26 46 46 Y FOX/Opinion Dynamics 8/25 44 45 1 N Gallup 8/25 50 47 3 Y NPR 8/24 45 50 5 N GWU Battleground 8/17 47 49 2 N Zogby 8/14 43 50 7 Y Gallup 8/11 50 47 3 Y ICR 8/8 48 48 Y Time [with leaners] 8/5 44 51 7 Y Democracy Corps (D) 8/5 45 52 7 N FOX/Opinion Dynamics 8/4 43 48 5 N ABC/Washington Post 8/1 48 49 1 n/a CNN/USA Today/Gallup 8/1 51 47 4 Y

Polls Confuse Me.. 9/2/04- Time Magazine- Bush with a double digit lead. 9/2/04- Zogby- Bush with a 2% lead. 9/2/04- American Research Group- Kerry with a 1% lead. 9/2/04- Economist/UGov- Tied Race Which one to believe?

WOW.. I hope that this is all over the news tonight. However with the RNC wrapping up, Clinton in the hospital, Iraq and Russia I think this will take a back seat. And probably rightfully so.

last night I chose to bypass Bush's speech and head on over to ABC Family to watch Good Will Hunting for the 50th time. It got me thinking of great movie quotes.. and I'll start with GWH. Keep in mind that the movie was made in '97, probably written in '96. It's somewhat weird how close this could resemble some of the issues in Iraq today. Will : Why shouldn't I work for the N.S.A.? That's a tough one, but I'll give it a shot. Say I'm working at N.S.A. Somebody puts a code on my desk, something nobody else can break. So I take a shot at it and maybe I break it. And I'm real happy with myself, 'cause I did my job well. But maybe that code was the location of some rebel army in North Africa or the Middle East. Once they have that location, they bomb the village where the rebels were hiding and fifteen hundred people I never had a problem with get killed. Now the politicians are sayin', "Send in the marines to secure the area" 'cause they don't give a s***. It won't be their kid over there, gettin' shot. Just like it wasn't them when their number was called, 'cause they were pullin' a tour in the National Guard. It'll be some guy from Southie takin' shrapnel in the ass. And he comes home to find that the plant he used to work at got exported to the country he just got back from. And the guy who put the shrapnel in his ass got his old job, 'cause he'll work for fifteen cents a day and no bathroom breaks. Meanwhile my buddy from Southie realizes the only reason he was over there was so we could install a government that would sell us oil at a good price. And of course the oil companies used the skirmish to scare up oil prices so they could turn a quick buck. A cute little ancillary benefit for them but it ain't helping my buddy at two-fifty a gallon. And naturally they're takin' their sweet time bringin' the oil back, and maybe even took the liberty of hiring an alcoholic skipper who likes to drink martinis and play slalom with the icebergs, and it ain't too long 'til he hits one, spills the oil and kills all the sea life in the North Atlantic. So my buddy's out of work and he can't afford to drive, so he's got to walk to the job interviews, which sucks 'cause the shrapnel in his ass is givin' him chronic hemorrhoids. And meanwhile he's starvin' 'cause every time he tries to get a bite to eat the only blue plate special they're servin' is North Atlantic scrod with Quaker State. So what do I think? I'm holdin' out for somethin' better. Why not just shoot my buddy, take his job and give it to his sworn enemy, hike up gas prices, bomb a village, club a baby seal, hit the hash pipe and join the National Guard? I could be elected president.

I'm not sure when people started thinking that Michael Moore had anything to do with the Democratic party. He isn't a spokesman, or a politician.. he's just a film director. No more, no less. As for Arnold... he's as embarassing as Al Sharpton is to the Democratic party. Except the Dems didn't give Sharpton a primetime speaking spot. Arnold is a self-admitted steriod user & women abuser. As much as I don't like the party, the Republicans could have found a far better choice for speaker than Arnold.

i think part of Shingo's problems lately has also been due to a lack of consistent work in save opportunities. His ERA by months APRIL 3.86 MAY 0.00 JUNE 0.77 JULY 0.96 AUGUST 7.36

sorry.. didnt see this posted elsewhere

If the Sox rotation was... 1) Diaz 2) Munoz 3) Cotts 4) Grilli 5) Adkins would they win another game for the rest of the season?

Keyes: Cheney's Gay Daughter Is a Sinner 51 minutes ago NEW YORK - Illinois Republican Senate candidate Alan Keyes (news - web sites) labeled homosexuality "selfish hedonism" and said Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites)'s lesbian daughter is a sinner. The former talk show host who has made two unsuccessful runs for the White House made the comments Monday night in an interview with Sirius OutQ, a satellite radio station that provides programming aimed at gays and lesbians. After saying homosexuality is "selfish hedonism," Keyes was asked if that made Mary Cheney "a selfish hedonist." "Of course she is," Keyes replied. "That goes by definition." Liz Cheney, Mary's sister, refused to comment Wednesday during an interview on CNN. "I guess I'm surprised, frankly, that you would even repeat the quote, and I'm not going to dignify it with a comment," she told the interviewer. The Log Cabin Republicans (news - web sites), a gay and lesbian organization, denounced Keyes' remark. "In a political career defined by failures, this is a new low for Alan Keyes," executive director Patrick Guerriero said in a statement Wednesday. "Attacking politician's children is beyond the pale, even for an extremist like Alan Keyes." In the days before the Republican National Convention, Dick Cheney spoke at some length about the fact that Mary is a lesbian and his view of gay relationships. His tacit support for states' rights on the issue of same-sex marriage and less-than-ringing endorsement of President Bush (news - web sites)'s push for a constitutional amendment to ban gay unions drew criticism from several conservative groups.

I agree. Saying you support something 10 years ago and then changing your mind today is fine... saying that the war on terror isnt winable yesterday but is winable today?

Does this constitute flip-flopping?? Bush to Veterans: 'We Will Win' Terror War 10 minutes ago Add Top Stories - AP to My Yahoo! By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer NASHVILLE, Tenn. - President Bush (news - web sites) said Tuesday "we will win" the war on terror, seeking to quell controversy and Democratic criticism over his earlier remark that victory may not be possible. In a speech to the national convention of the American Legion, Bush said, "We meet today in a time of war for our country, a war we did not start yet one that we will win. That statement differed from Bush's earlier comment, aired Monday in a pre-taped television interview, that "I don't think you can win" the war on terror. That had Democrats running for the cameras to criticize Bush for being defeatist and flip-flopping from previous predictions of victory

1549.. you must work for Fox News, because you are only reporting half of the story. The Bush Twins also got booed repeatedly. Kerry, Bush daughters booed on MTV Monday, August 30, 2004 Posted: 12:16 PM EDT (1616 GMT) MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- Reaching out to young Americans at MTV's Video Music Awards Sunday night, the daughters of President Bush and his Democratic challenger Sen. John Kerry were met by loud cheers and jeers. It was unclear exactly whom the cheers and the boos were meant for or why. They began immediately after radio and MTV personality Carson Daly introduced "from New York, Barbara and Jenna Bush and here in Miami, Vanessa and Alexandra Kerry." The Kerry daughters were at the event in Miami; the Bush daughters appeared in a pre-recorded video. "My sister and I are thrilled to be here tonight with you all in Florida," said Vanessa Kerry, "and to get this chance to suggest that you get involved in this election and vote -- and hopefully that you vote for our father." MTV cameras showed some audience members apparently giving the women a standing ovation, but the mixture of boos and cheers continued. Alexandra Kerry added that millions of young Americans can help determine the November election, "but we appreciate that in our democracy people are free to feel differently about who they vote for." The Kerry daughters then turned around to watch, along with the MTV audience, the video of the Bush daughters. "Hey Alexandra and Vanessa, and hey to everyone at the VMAs," said Barbara Bush. "Jenna and I really wish we could be there, but we're in New York this week to support our dad and, as you might have guessed, we want to suggest that you vote for him in November." (Special report: America Votes 2004, the Republican convention) Jenna Bush said, "We can all agree on the importance of voting." MTV's broadcast turned down sounds of the audience during the playing of the video, but the vocal audience could still be heard. The Bush twins are 22 years old. Vanessa Kerry is 27; Alexandra turns 31 on Sunday. The boos seemed to die down and cheers took their place toward the end of the segment, when the Kerry daughters took back the floor and encouraged people to support victims of Hurricane Charley, which devastated portions of Florida earlier this month. Vanessa Kerry said, "Despite our differences, we all agree this election and this process are important. And we all agree that all of us are part of a greater American family." Speaking to CNN afterward, Vanessa Kerry said the booing had "scared" her, but added, "We're fighting for something so strongly, I will go up there and hear the whole arena boo if it means connecting with one person." She also said it was "surreal" to appear at the VMAs, known for having one of the most energetic and responsive crowds of any awards show.