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Any answer that goes deeper than avoiding certain situations is going to be the kind of unachievable hollow promise that we usually get from politicians.

What exactly can a President do policy-wise to prevent sexual assault? The President can't prevent every problem. The President can't make every 18 year old male sit down and listen to a 45 minute lecture on sexual assault. He can encourage high schools and colleges and any other place that has large numbers of 18-24 year old males to do it, and maybe he should have said that, but he can't force that to happen, and I'm struggling to think of what else can be done policy-wise. Through his post-assault policy positions he clearly demonstrated a sensitivity to the subject, and in that context suggesting that a young woman can feel safer by avoiding certain situations is perfectly fine.

First of all, those aren't the only two options available. Secondly, there are "parties where alcohol is served" and there are "PARTIES WHERE ALCOHOL IS SERVED". I think you're taking Kasich's statement to an extreme that wasn't intended.

No, it's not the detector itself. In fact, when the detector itself is completely removed, the beeping still comes from the same spot. There is something in the ceiling that is generating the beeping noise. Something i can't get to. When the smoke detector is removed, above it is a metal cylinder that is nailed into a ceiling joyce and only has a hole big enough for the wires to hang down through it, so I can't see anything up there.

Did you read his entire statement? He said lots of policy things other than "avoid drunken parties".

Sale's ERA and FIP are a touch worse than his 2014 numbers and his K/9 is below both of the past two seasons. His 1-hit shutout stands out but he really isn't any better than expected. I will grant that Robertson's 0.00 ERA and 0.20 WHIP are probably unsustainable.

"Avoid bad neighborhoods" has a racial context that "avoid drunken parties" does not have.

2005 Sox were 11th in a 14-team AL in OBP.

OK will post this here to see if anybody has any ideas. Our home is 9 years old. It has five battery-powered smoke detectors, but they are all also connected to the home's electrical system. A few weeks ago, a beeping noise started coming from inside the ceiling, not directly from one of the smoke detectors, but from up in the ceiling near one of them. I noticed that the nearest smoke detector intermittently blinked. My first assumption was that the battery needed to be replaced so I replaced it. Blinking/beeping continued. Second assumption was that the smoke detector itself was bad so I bought/installed a new one. Blinking/beeping continued, so I re-installed the original unit. Of course the blinking/beeping continued. I began to wonder if this was some sort of electrical malfunction, so I swapped the blinking smoke detector with one from an entirely different part of the house where there had been no blinking or beeping. The blinking/beeping stayed in the same location and did not move with the detector that had been blinking, so my conclusion is that there is some sort of problem with that specific location independent of the detector itself. Has anybody ever heard of anything like this happening? We're about ready to close on a new house and move so 1) we have to fix this problem before we put this house on the market and 2) we don't have a lot of free cash and don't want to pay an electrician to rip out the ceiling to fix the problem unless it's absolutely necessary

Agreed on the point in general about there not being enough discussion with young men, but this specific question came from a woman. He can't tell this woman anything that is going to help her force men to behave differently. What this woman can control is where she goes and when she goes there. What if the woman's question had been: "If I avoid parties where there is lots of alcohol, would my chances of being sexually assaulted be reduced?"

I avoid driving at night, especially near bars, as much as possible for that very reason. Again, her question was "how do I feel safer." Not going will make her feel safer. He's not telling her she can't go, or not to go ever. He's telling her that if she doesn't go, she will feel safer. Everybody is reading too much into this. All he said is that if she doesn't go, she will feel safer. The fact that assaults happen frequently at these types of parties make that statement true. Nobody is blaming her or making value judgments about her actions. Each woman can use that information and make up her own mind to weigh the value of feeling safer with the value of participating in the activities.

At no point did he make a value judgment. She asked how to feel safer. He gave her a way to feel safer. It wasn't a value judgment about her or alcohol or anything else being correct or not correct.

Her question was framed as that of a college student, so as a college student alcohol is the pretty dominant factor in sexual assaults. Also, Kasich isn't telling her she has to change her life, he is answering her question about how she can feel safer. If she follows his advice, she probably will feel safer, but she is an adult and can choose whether or not to follow that advice, and whether or not she follows that advice should have no bearing on how she is treated if she unfortunately does become a victim. Kasich's biggest problem is that when a person asks a question, he answers the question, to the extent that he knows it, in that particular person's context, not paying attention to the fact that his answer will get blown up and generalized to apply to every person in every situation. We aren't used to politicians that don't intend their answers to be extremely applied to every person in every situation.

Yes, he should be held accountable. He should be commended for making sure that young women have as much information as possible before making decisions, rather than not saying it because hypocrites on the left will yell and scream about it.

No, it's not just being literal. As a statement of prevention it's common sense. It's good advice, and I don't buy your argument that his statement impacts how people view and treat victims of sexual assault. People who do that do it because they are horrible people, not because of anything John Kasich said. John Kasich not saying that one line or even replacing that line with a long diatribe about how poorly victims are sometimes treated isn't going to make the assholes any less assholic. The goal here is to reduce sexual assault, and one thing (among many) that helps do that is to warn women about situations where sexual assaults occur. We are doing a disservice to women if we just stick our heads in the sand until after they get assaulted and then do something about it.

It's not controversial. The idea of taking a statement that isn't at all saying that and believing it to mean that is what is controversial.

Kasich isn't responsible for the level of skepticism and scrutiny that is applied to victims of crime (except in his state while he's governor). He's not responsible for what others do and think. And it's not victim-blaming. Saying it 1000 times doesn't make it that. The person who asked the question did not identify herself as a victim. He was answering a question from a single person. His response does not automatically translate to him saying the same thing to a woman who does identify herself as a victim and asks a similar question. Things that are inappropriate to say to a victim are not automatically inappropriate to say to a person who is concerned about preventing herself from becoming a victim.

Sox have played 2 home games this year. Detroit has played 4 and the rest of the AL has played at least 5, yet the Sox are only ½ game off the best record in the league. 7 of the Sox' 10 road games were played in notorious pitchers' parks. The likelihood of the Sox maintaining a .278 OBP is about the same as the likelihood of Latos maintaining a 0.75 ERA. Both are going to regress to the mean some.

You can call it victim-blaming all you want. It's reality. You are safer if you are not drunk and/or around drunk people. Not just safer from sexual crimes but from non-sexual assault and theft as well. That's a level of safety you can provide yourself that the government can't. Kasich is being irresponsible if he doesn't convey that message to someone who asks him. All the government can do is a bunch of things after the fact (which he did outline). Kasich is not responsible for the context anybody else has used in saying the same or similar things. Immediately after his comments, before that tweet you linked to and went crazy on even got posted, Kasich said this: But you went ahead and ran with that single line without doing a single second of research to see what else he said.

I've heard him speak on the subject outside of the single quote that was used here to draw conclusions.

It's too late. StrangeSox and bmags have already decided exactly what he meant by that. Anything further he says would just be pandering for votes and not actually clarifying what he meant. The only acceptable answer Kasich could have given is that all straight, white Christian males are awful disgusting human beings and should all be thrown in jail just for being who they are. Any other answer is bigoted in some shape or form.

No, YOU are projecting that attitude onto Kasich and inciting others to be outraged by it. He didn't say what he didn't say.

So what you're saying is that women are too stupid to take a general statement made by Kasich and apply it practically to their own lives?

No, it's not an either or. You can put responsibility on women without absolving the criminal. If I leave town for a week and leave my garage door open with a suitcase containing $100,000 in it, and it gets stolen, the criminal isn't any less liable than if he broke into my house and cracked my safe to get the money, but everybody would say I'm an idiot for doing what I did. I'm not advocating calling sexual assault victims idiots in any circumstances, but before they become victims it's beneficial to teach them the most common situations where assaults occur and encourage them to avoid those situations. Oh, and if any man has a history of not being able to control himself around alcohol, I'd most definitely advise him not to go to parties with alcohol due to the increased vulnerability of not only being a perpetrator but also a victim of a crime.

Levers like security cameras and increased patrols can help with stuff like robbery, sure, but sexual assault usually occurs in a room where there is just one (sometimes a few) man and one woman. Do we need to put security cameras in every private room everywhere? Police officers following every woman around to protect them? The nature of the crime doesn't lend itself to any other prevention method aside from education. I guess he could have advocated for longer prison sentences for sex offenders, but then he's a racist for wanting more incarceration of black people (doesn't even matter what the race statistics are on sexual assault, it will get spun that way).