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What do you guys think about the OF? Aoki?

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Nov 21, 2014 -> 07:05 PM) Absolutely. Nope Rick Hahn and Kenny were lying as I was told a month ago

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Nov 20, 2014 -> 10:42 PM) To acquire Bruce, it's gonna take a larger deal. Likely 3rd team. Where does this leave Melky if you dont mind me asking Bucket? I really appreciate the info you've given us so far

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 05:41 PM) If the White Sox don't get an elite prospect back for Alexei Ramirez there remains zero reason to move him. Moving Alexei for anyone basically guarantees we're making the team worse in 2015. Nearly impossible to replace his production via a reasonably priced FA and whatever guy we get back would likely be a rookie and thus likely would need time to adapt to the league. It's very nearly throwing in the towel on 2015. The only reason we'd have to do that is if someone makes us significantly better in ~2016 through the trade. I honestly dont know how many times this needs to be repeated to outside fans. The White Sox have zero reason to trade him EXCEPT a package worth it in weight of players. Otherwise they can hand onto him until Anderson is ready. The situation is perfect for us right now. Either get a really good package or have a really good option at SS.

Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal · 6m 6 minutes ago Sources: #Marlins, #WhiteSox, #Padres all have checked in on LaRoche, at minimum. Other teams view him as contingency if they make trades. https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal One of my favorite free agents available

I asked Dan about the possibility of taking on a contract and he didnt know. White Sox are being tight lipped right now...which we all expected.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 01:33 PM) I spent 3 years in Webster Texas and a couple of summers in Conroe. I could never see snow again and be thrilled. If there was any real financial industry in the south, I would have been down there 15 years ago. This past summer wasnt bad...last years was really bad. Dont go outside bad because the sun will eat your skin away. Most of the places I'm looking to move are on the East Coast or back to Chicago.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 01:20 PM) Don Cooper special. It pays to be an effective LHP out of the pen. Oh...Hey!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 01:20 PM) Give me a Texas summer over last years Chicago winter any time. Deal

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 12:01 PM) I'd throw in Abreu and Sale for that return. I'll take some Chicago winter for Texas's summer

Isnt Duke the guy at the end of the movie Major League?

Welp that means no Andrew Miller probably. As I posted in the other thread I'm not his biggest fan but it's a step in the right direction.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 18, 2014 -> 11:31 AM) Frankly, if the Dodgers are aggressively pursuing Alexei, there could be a zillion different things going on and it might not matter what we heard from those guys anyways. True...but just something like if they wanted to add Danks in would clear things up. I wouldnt take on Ethier or Crawford without shipping a terrible contract back with them. It certainly wouldnt happen for just Alexei.

Man we could use a bucket or rock little piece of info here....So many ideas swirling around right now and plenty of them make sense. But way too much info that isnt known.

Some of the trade proposals on mlbtraderumors....boy that sure want us to take their crap contracts for them

Adam LaRoche and Morales came to mind when reading that

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Nov 17, 2014 -> 01:12 PM) They traded two. Miller has TOR stuff if, he is still young and really just had a bad season which happens to young guys and Tyrell Jenkins who has the stuff to be a #2 or 3. Really great trade for the Braves getting two really high ceiling rotation guys for one season of a mediocre offensive OF and an overpriced RP. Yeah Miller...the young pitcher with conditioning problems and a complete mental breakdown. Yeah the Cardinals are really going to regret getting an accumulated 24 WAR OF who is 25 years old.

What good young pitcher did the Cardinals trade for Heyward?

Nice to see Atlanta getting taken advantage of when their rebuilding starts.

Bad few minutes for Cubs fans. That Heyward deal is nice

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 17, 2014 -> 11:10 AM) Jesse Crain signed a 3 year, $13 million deal. Andrew Miller might sign for 3x that amount and more than 2x the AAV. 3 for 30 last I read

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 17, 2014 -> 09:07 AM) [/b] That is kind of an oxymoron when you are talking about relief pitchers. Heck look at Miller. His FIP was double in 2013, what it was in 2014. His WHIP was .80 versus 1.37 in 2013. His 2013 walk rate was double his 2014 rate (5.0 vs 2.5). It goes on and on. That's definitely a valid point.

QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 17, 2014 -> 11:04 AM) https://twitter.com/pgammo/status/534390714827018240 Russell Martin to Toronto. Sounds like an overpay. Extreme overpay

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 09:38 PM) Admittedly, Duke doesn't have a huge track record and I prefer Thatcher, but Duke has been solid out of the pen. The difference in contracts will be significant. The difference in contracts will be significant for a reason. You have to pay for consistent production.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 16, 2014 -> 05:12 PM) They also don't need to pay a guy 8-10 million a year for 60 innings. Not that 60 innings are even guaranteed for Miller. He'll throw 60ish if he doesn't get hurt or his control doesn't regress to his career norms. Bullpens are far too spontaneous and random to put that much weight into what happened last year. In fact, Andrew Miller is a great example of exactly that. 2014 he walked 2.5/9 and in the 2013 he walked twice as many as 5.0/9. Obviously we need restructuring in the pen but that doesn't mean paying a ridiculous price for the best lefty in FA. I don't know what a "hefty sum" is for a reliever but if it's what Miller is going to get I'll take that bet. Give me one of Duke/Thather and one or two of Grilli/Hochevar/Chamberlain and I'll be happy. Your worried about Miller regressing but not Duke? Theres obviously going to be a price difference but it's not like Duke is going to be paid the league minimum. Duke back to his usual getting shelled self with Joba Chamberlain...your right back to square 1.