Flash Tizzle

QUOTE(Brian @ Sep 24, 2006 -> 10:11 PM) Sometimes I wish I could cross her London Bridge, if ya smell what I'm cookin. I'm convinced 90% of the people who listen to that song have no idea what it means.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Sep 24, 2006 -> 06:43 PM) 4)Allows for renovations and further gentrification of the city. Well, I'm certain there's a large group of people living around the proposed Olympic area who wouldn't consider this a benefit. Gentrification pushes out the poor. On a personal level, I just find it strange to look ahead to 2016 and realize I'll be 31 years old. I'd like to anticipate all the diversity of the Olympics, and how it would bring in an amazing amount of women; but then it occurs to me -- I'll be too old to work the barscene looking for European/South American athletes.

QUOTE(The Critic @ Sep 24, 2006 -> 03:53 PM) I think The Sweaty One has put doubt in the minds of the front office with his late good outings. Will the fact that Mark throws with the left arm keep him off the trade block? If Garcia's split finger fastball is the reason for his turnaround, and these last few outtings are proof of a resurgence, I still wouldn't take a chance. Maybe another team is willing to give up more now. I would trade Buehrle and Garcia right now if we could replace 70% of their production for 1000+% of the salary. You figure McCarthy compensates for Garcia fairly well, but now what about Mark? His innings are the most difficult to make up for. Haegar could conceivably do it. He just happens to throw a knuckleball.

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 24, 2006 -> 03:53 PM) I've now changed my prediction that we will see either Contreras, Thome, or Buehrle have some type of major surgery this season. Contreras and Buehrle = back, and Thome = wrist. If Buehrle's back issues are enought to warrant surgery, send him off this offseason. This is only my observation, but one I'm sure hasn't went past Williams. Who cares if it's unethical? Let another general manager worry about it. The thing is, I doubt Buehrle discloses back issues in his contract year. So we'll end up paying him 9 million to put up a 5 ERA next season.

Ichiro really climbed up that wall, lol. I've always wanted to see a highlight of someone climbing atop a wall, standing up ontop of it, and stealing a HR.

Buehrle is another person I wouldn't doubt has injury issues. Like Cotts, his follow through is completely different than last season. Not concerning his arm action, but the degree to which his back arches.

I believe one player who'll emerge this offseason with an injury is Cotts. I don't know why it hasn't been discussed more often, but he's completely altered his delivery. Watch the postseason of last season and compare it to now. He no longer has the deception -- the sort of pump action before delivery which made his fastball appear "sneaky." You just don't abadon that without reason. When he throws now it's one continuos motion. And as we've seen with minor leaguer after minor leaguer, straight 90 mph fastballs are meat without something to offset it. I hope he's packaged this offseason with Garcia or whomever else.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 04:12 PM) Themselves. There body image perception isn't exactly very realistic. Referencing Karen Carpenter -- this time on a serious note -- her initial bout with Anorexia was due to a review written in the Rolling Stone which, apparently, labeled her as "chubby." I doubt it solely contributed to the illiness, but more than likely became the proverbial "straw which broke the camels back." Friends, family, her own brother criticized her lax eating habits by continually reinforcing their position she was beautiful prior to the weight-loss. It didn't work. We're our own worse critics. Walking across campus, I rarely observe women I'd suspect of an eating disorder. It's actually quite the opposite -- full and large figure women wear absurdly tight clothing. These people obviously didn't conform to the standards set forth by Cosmopolitan, or some walk-way fashion show in Milan. Even though I'm fairly skinny for my height (6'2, 170), I'd prefer a girl with "curves" over someone at risk of having a gentle breeze blow them into the atmosphere.

That's a transformation Karen Carpenter would have been proud of. Yeah, I went there.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 11:50 PM) Do you still eat Macaroni and Cheese all the time too? I still do. Have a problem with that?

Screw that idea. http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...-home-headlines YAY. Guillen leaving in players to earn incentives. Watching Podsedik's next 30 AB's will be both agonizing and bittersweet. Hopefully they'll be the last 30 in a White Sox uniform. I'd also like to believe Crede's absence may allow Fields to move into 3rd, but I can't count on Guillen to follow such logic.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 12:15 AM) Felix, what exactly is your problem? I don't think Tizzle is rooting against this team. This team has shown nothing for over 3 months now. Why expect anything from them? No, I AM rooting against this team. I believe the sooner our playoff chances are dashed the quicker Guillen can begin inserting minor league players into the lineup. And thus, once again, I'll begin watching this ballclub. Offseason and 2007 can't come soon enough. Some people apparently can't handle anything aside from the usual, "I support this team until we're mathmatically eliminated," posts. I've just grown so irritated, so disgusted, with what I've witnessed from this team during the second half. Oakland series was enough for me. Their on-field demeanor has little to do with beliefs, but judging from the piss-poor display against Seattle, they've given up as well. I'm not supporting this group, anymore. Perhpas with a few changes they'll arrive to spring training next year not feeling as if their 2005 championship entitles them to an automatic playoff birth. Honest to God, they can lose the remaining games and it wouldn't matter to me. Did tonight's loss really hurt anyone on this site? If anyone still held an emotional attachment to this years team, you should feel devastated after the crap they layed on the field. But I doubt anyone feels this way. Fans and players alike are sleepwalking the remainder of this disappointing season.

QUOTE(RX Bandits @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 10:39 PM) Unless you can prove to me that they are not giving any "effort" you cant say that. Did you happen to watch this evenings game?

QUOTE(diegotony06 @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 10:34 PM) Orel Hershiser was on Baseball Tonight talking about the Sox (He did the Tigers game last night on ESPN). He mentioned that it disturbed him to see the clubhouse atmosphere and it wasn't what he'd expected out of the defending world champs....he said he noticed players making offseason plans, signs up about cleaning out lockers, etc. This was very disturbing to me considering they are not yet mathmatically eliminated But......I thought Guillen would never allow that to happen? You know, he'd just make everyone laugh and joke, then they'd suddenly begin clicking as a team.

It's losses such as tonight which only reinforces my position that I don't care how they finish this season. For the sake of entertainment, I'd rather they lose if it means more AB's -- or withour pitchers, more opportunities -- for prospects within our system. Criticize me again, but games such as tonight make it clear their heads are looking past October 1. Why should I care what they do if they themselves don't? Guillen's post-game comments: "Players should feel embarrassed for how they played. Way they played tonight was real pathetic."

I suppose this is the post game thread. Same s***, different day with this team. Not too upset about it, though. Since I've conditioned myself to except losses from yesterday onwards, I can only laugh at games such as tonight where we yet again embarrass ourselves on the field.

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QUOTE(Felix @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 07:30 PM) Can you teach me to be just like you? Step 1: Remove whoever that hell is that scruffy looking child molestor from your avatar. Step 2: Displace your fan loyalty from the White Sox to the immortal Seattle Mariners. Step 3: Repeatedly ask, "Where's our Liriano!!!1111 (or) "Tyler Lispcum", as Santo=Dorf would say.

QUOTE(AirScott @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 07:28 PM) well shouldn't you hope your favorite team wins every game, regardless of whether or not the games matter? I don't know, that's just me. and why is that some people are saying this team has quit (I'm not saying you have), yet now you want them to quit? we'll see the future of the team in 2007, and even though it is unlikely we make the playoffs (to say the least), I want our best players giving their all until we are mathematically eliminated. I guess I'm the only honest person left on Soxtalk. Someone who doesn't have to give people the impression he cares whether his favorite ballclub (to Seattle, of course) wins meaningless games. I can't even stand watching them play on TV. Thus, I'll cheer for their defeat from within Soxtalk. Next year, perhaps when they're not "tired," "battered" or any other excuse Konerko or others may use, I'll revert to cheering for them. You think we'll see the future of this team in 07'? Not if Guillen has his input.

QUOTE(Felix @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 07:10 PM) Yes, lets root AGAINST our team!! Genius idea. Hey, you can contine sporting your superfan outfit and suggesting we "DON'T STOP BELIEVIN'" but I see no difference in how the season ends. Whether it's winning 8 of 10 or losing 10 straight. Hell, improve our draft position while we're at it. A good losing streak can help our position 4-5 spots!!!! Ultimately, I'm more interested in watching Sweeney/Fields/Haegar/Logan play than some veterans mailing it in the final week. f*** them. They had 152 games to prove themselves. Step off the field and let fans witness the future of this ballclub. I'll root for a Vazquez blowup if it means the remaining games are full of young prospects. What the hell does it matter if he pitches well with absolutely no pressure against a mediocre Seattle club?

QUOTE(Felix @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 07:07 PM) What are you talking about? McCarthy is another sucky White Sox pitching prospect who doesn't throw 100 MPH. What separates him from the army of soft tossing prospects we've produced in the past is his command (K/BB) and success in the minors, as well as two legitimate pitches to offset a 90mph fastball. Without the changeup working, he is another sucky White Sox pitching prospect. His bullpen stinct this year suggests as much.

If Williams leaves this rotation as it currently stands, he'll have learned NOTHING from his Northside counterpart. Whereas injuries are a key difference between the rotations (for Cubs, Prior/Wood; us, consistently healthy), the basic idea of hoping that our current staters somehow rebound is, quite frankly, lazy general managing. You get rid of an existing starter for McCarthy. This talk of trading him for a leadoff hitter is honestly absurd. Young pitching with McCarthy's potential -- which has actually been proven, opposed to other prospects -- exceeds that of a leadoff hitter. My idea of McCarthy's value is high because I've always favored pitchers over positional players. A lineup has 9 players. 9 players can absorb deficiencies of others. Considering Podsednik's mediocre production, and the likelihood our offense overall will produce similar numbers, it shouldn't be difficult to replace him. Even easier if Guillen is transfixed on a speedy slap hitter with low OBP.