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This this this. I feel like a broken record talking about this point. All these guys we are listing in potential trade are basically MLB ready. They are much less likely to bust. At the time of the Sale trade, it wasn't even a sure thing Kopech would stay a starter. Moncada's hit tool had some major question marks due to his strikeout rate. The bust potential was much higher.

You said Cease was top 50. That article clearly has him at 58. Your statement that he was top 50 is fake news.

The rankings you gave were also incorrect. The prospect rank you gave for Dylan Cease was fake news

Q put up 4.9, 4.3, and 4.9 fWAR in the seasons leading up to that trade. Marquez has 1 season above 4, with a 4.1 fWAR two seasons ago. Cease was in A and Eloy was in A+ during those trades. They weren't close to being MLB ready. I would bet that Vaughn and Kopech together put up a similar WAR total to Marquez NEXT season, even with service time gaming. You're doing our prospects dirty, Balta. Hahn should get tarred and feathered if he trades Vaughn and Kopech for Marquez

Eloy was top 10 and Cease was barely top 100. They also weren't major league ready. Madrigal, Cease, Dunning gives you 3 major league ready players. Madrigal and Dunning are almost sure things to stick as starters. Cease still has ace potential. I think the Rockies accept that deal.

Cease was not at Kopech's level during the trade. Eloy then was comparable to Vaughn now in value. Vaughn and Kopech are both major league ready. Neither Eloy or Cease were. Cease, Dunning, Madrigal is fair I would say

Yep, it is just a poor fit for a trade. You need to find a rebuilding team IMO. I still think Marquez is your best bet. His numbers are really impressive away. He's a great #2, possibly a #1

Madrigal, Cease, Dunning is as far as I would go for Snell. The problem is you are trying to snag an ace from a competitive team. You're better off trying to acquire an ace from a rebuilding team. Going for Marquez from the rockies makes more sense.

This is easily more than the Sale trade, and it's not even close. 4 players that are MLB ready next year and all have all star potential? Rick Hahn should be fired if he offers a trade like that. Sheesh

Madrigal Cease Vaughn are 3 major league ready players. Cease obviously needs work, but he has ace potential still. Madrigal and Vaughn are locks to be above average at their positions IMO. Kopech was no guarantee to be a starter during the time of the trade, and Moncada did have some question marks as to whether his strikeout rate would allow him to hit enough in the majors.

I hate giving up all those prospects in a deal for a pitcher, but I would understand the trade. It just seems a little heavy. You've got 2 MLB ready players who project to be above average at their positions, and a pitcher with ace potential.

Would any of you include Dane Dunning in Musgrove trade? Dunning had some great starts at the beginning of the season. Stuff isn't too overwhelming. He needs great command to be effective. Might be the time to sell high on him.

4 years, 120m for Hayward. Good lord.

Not Steve cishek said it? It must be true then.

If they don't show it on CNN, it never happened

Was this guy snagged in the rule 5 draft? I thought the same thing. I see no reason to dislike this move.

Very excited to see the Crotch Rocket in action again. You know he'll be up if they make the playoffs.

Regarding the 1994 strike, how big of a part did Reinsdorf play in it? No more or less than the other owners? Imagine another strike during a season where the Sox are a favorite to win it. Depressing.

https://theathletic.com/2209316/2020/11/19/white-sox-international-scouting/ Here's the whole article with Paddy

https://theathletic.com/2210460/2020/11/20/white-sox-ethan-katz-miguel-cairo/

https://theathletic.com/2210460/2020/11/20/white-sox-ethan-katz-miguel-cairo/ Article on Katz and Cairo

Seemed like a good dude. Played way too much on our team unfortunately. Stole too many at bats from Yermin. Enjoy retirement sir.

Nancy's does have some of the best feel dish. Art of Pizza and Panino's are phenomenal as well

Low Energy Jeb!