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JFC. Already starting to feel like another season from hell.

Sure, its possible. I don't buy it that they "cannot afford" it, but moreso that the Jerry hasn't approved it. I think its more likely that the Sox were not interested in those 2 players.

Ya. Certainly possible that KC preferred to move him outside the division, but they did just trade Taylor to the Twins yesterday. No one knows Modesi better than Grifol, so that's wroth considering as well.

Seems like Royals just gave Modesi away. He's only set to make $3M in 23 before FA.

Seems likely, but let's not pretend like Jerry anything but one of the main reasons why this club failed to execute on their plan. If he just let his baseball people make the baseball decisions, me thinks the last 2 seasons would have gone a good bit better.

There is no way you're under 70.

I think the "championship window" thing is very overplayed at this point. Has anyone actually affiliated with the organization mentioned that the Sox are in a championship window this offseason? It was said many times in the past, but I do not recall hearing it this offseason. The front office is obviously hoping for the best and for bounce backs from key players - I too am disappointed more hasn't been done. But if JR really set the payroll limit at $180M or so heading into the season, what else could they have realistically done? The reality of the situation is the multiple championship window was burned to the ground when Tony LaRussa sabotaged year 2-3 of said window and left a mess in his wake.

I think you’re reading into offseason talk far too much. Eloy is going to play OF occasionally though. This shouldn’t be earth shattering to anyone.

I’d be shocked if they are not back.

Twins gotta get some sort of CF depth for when Buxton spends his 2-3 months on the IL. Isn’t going to be Kepler as he’ll be traded soon enough. Gallo deal still makes no sense for the Twins.

Yah, I think Pito was a silent leader. This team needs a vocal leader on the position player side. I feel like Liam might have been that guy, even though its probably more difficult for a reliever to be the team leader. But alas....

Last season is pretty clear evidence to the contrary. That's the best he hit since he tore his shoulder from the bone....ya know...playing defense.

I think its more that he is a 26 year old kid that isn't interested in being relegated to DH duty for the rest of his career quite yet. Just because he wants to play OF and the coaching staff is at least leaving that door open for it (closing the door would be kind of stupid, if its they only played him out there in emergencies), does NOT mean they actually intend for him to anything but the primary DH.

Who cares what Eloy thinks? No one should at this point. He has lost that privilege. I am glad he's not being lazy though. Its a good thing that that he wants to play the OF and is still training at it, not bad.

If Elvis could be had for like 1/$3-4M to play 2B, considering the current state of the roster and external options, what would you guys think about that? I was never for it, but as the options dwindle, it feels better than handing the job to Romy if Evlis could actually be had for $3-4M.

Nah, Crochet is going to be needed in the pen. If they wanted to make him a SP, they should have done it in 2021 in the minors. With the TJS, ship has sailed.

I do agree that this fanbase gets a bit carried away with former players, and Cubs players. I think most fanbases do similar things - fans generally gravitate to what they are most familiar with. As for Madrigal, he is not a guy I would be targeting. There are definitely better options - someone like Joey Wendle would be great. But Wendle is probably not available with Jazz moving to CF. Madrigal is definitely available. I do think Madrigal is an improvement on the current options....at the moment. If the sox acquired him for like....Andrew Dalquist, I'd be fine with it. Romy is almost certainly just a guy. We all know what Leury is. I think 2B is Sosa's eventually, but he's probably not ready yet and could use more time in the minors.

At this point, I’d take him. Would need to be cheap tho.

I don’t really see the benefit of Grifol telling Eloy his days in the OF over. Hahn and Grifol have both said that he’s going to be the primary DH. I suspect that he will. But Eloy is going to play some OF and we all know he wants to as well. So I view this as nothing more than offseason coachspeak. Not surprised to see people want to gnash their teeth over it tho. While I do not agree that what will amount to around 15 games should have no impact on the Colas OD decision, I do agree that if he has a great ST you gotta give him the job. But I do think we would have seen Colas up when Robert was essentially playing 1 handed last season if the Sox planned on using Colas right away in 23. Not calling him up then but starting him on OD roster in 23 is just awful decision making.

Best of luck to Chas

Well, he's a SP and under contract and will be making starts for the Minnesota Twins in 2023. Which was the topic of conversation.

Suppose its possible put Maeda in the pen. Twins beats talking about maybe a 6 man rotation since they're pretty much all injury prone.

You’re forgetting Maeda.

Chaz Jizzholm is available as stopgap!? THat's amazing news. Marlins must view Azzaez as Jizzholm's replacement.

Yeah, the Twins do have a pretty solid collection of mid rotation arms. This presumably pushes Ober to the pen. But they're going to need the depth, almost all of them get hurt alot.