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After the Sox won in 1983, JR was quoted after that, sometime in 1984 as I recall, saying along the lines of, 'I didn't know winning would cost so much...' (Because players wanted raises et al)

You can do that with a competent front office. The Sox had Roland Hemond and Chuck Tanner driving the train. This front office is incompetent, dysfunctional and inept. Hard to overcome that regardless of how much talent you may have in the minor leagues. Crochet I feel will be traded anyway. And Melton suffered a herniated disc rescuing his son who somehow got up on the garage roof and was trapped there.

I was told by a few sources that Wintrust did indeed make a better offer but one of the stipulations was the name return to Comiskey Park and JR didn't care for that. But I was also told that an individual in the front office had family connections to Guaranteed Rate and was pushing their offer to the point of withholding some information from JR. I have no idea what was supposedly withheld and if it would have made any difference given the name of the stadium requirement.

In a season where they are going to lose 110-120 games does it even matter? Who cares if it gets worse...let it. Become a complete total embarrassment.

Just FYI since it has been speculated Grifol made clear the Robinson move has nothing to do with Maldonado. Robinson had it in his contract he had to be added to the 40-man by today or he could walk. With Stassi out for the year, Sox needed catching insurance.

Let the kid take his lumps and learn with the Sox as long as it doesn't get to him mentally.

You realize Fedde is a free agent after next year and the Sox aren't going to be in the mix next season short of new ownership. The division has also improved overall.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/06/15/white-sox-fans-soon-might-see-less-of-ace-garrett-crochet

Exactly correct, the Sox as far as talent acquisition, go into every year with one hand tied behind their back thanks to JR.

Let me have what he's drinking...I want to get loaded too. ?

He's had his moments but lately has done poorly. Still don't understand what sending him down accomplishes. Let him learn at the big league level. Some are calling him the Sox future closer.

DVS had a game recap story in the Sun-Times today from last night and Crochet was quoted as saying there have been no contract extension talks yet between him and the team.

I wasn't getting into any specifics as to why the players were disappointments...just that they all are.

That has happened recently. During the "rebuild" one year the Sox had the lowest team payroll if I recall correctly. That probably made JR very happy.

Crochet should have his lawyer sue this bunch of buffoons for lack of run support. The bullpen (Hello: Kopech) got bailed out for once. Kopech is flat horrible this year, just brutal. Six losses, four blown save chances and an ERA of almost five. When talking about how guys like Moncada, Jimenez and other were major disappointments don't forget to add his name into that mix.

On the podcast this week Chuck G. was talking about how Grifol is just being stubborn and refuses to understand that Maldonado simply isn't a good player anymore either offensively or defensively. He played the quote about Grifol defending his decision to let him bat twice in key situations Sunday in the loss to Boston and then made his "stubborn" comments...also said it is like Grifol is "doubling or tripling" down on the fact that he's going to keep playing him.

Remember Robert also had significant injuries when he was in the minor leagues including hand surgery if I remember correctly sliding head first into second base.

To DVS of the Sun-Times tonight: “I wish I was in charge of the lineup, that’s a question for Pedro. I’m doing whatever I can to get in the lineup.”- Korey Lee.

Doby claimed that Ditmar used some racial comments when the two were at home plate. Ditmar denied that he did but it was clear something set Doby off.

August 30, 1959 - The Sox sealed a huge four game sweep of their closest pursuers in the American League by beating Cleveland at Municipal Stadium 6-3 and 9-4. Early Wynn and Barry Latman picked up the wins. The four-game sweep increased the Sox lead to five and a half games in the league and basically ended any suspense as to who was going to win the 1959 American League championship. An oddity came in game two when Latman’s sacrifice fly in the second inning scored both Johnny Romano and Al Smith! Latman hit a long drive caught at the fence by the Indians Rocco “Rocky” Colavito (who’d join the Sox in 1967) which scored Romano easily but Smith never hesitated and slid safely before third baseman George Strickland could even make a throw. The double header sweep was played in front of over 66 thousand fans. Sportswriter Gordon Cobbledick of the Cleveland Plain Dealer wrote that it was time for the Sox to “Go-Go home…” And in 1964 the Sox won their last nine straight to end the year. The problem was the Yankees went on a stretch where they went 23-6 to end the season.

60 dollars? I get that it is for a good cause but really?

Agreed, they had some excellent seasons, the Yankees were just better. But the Yankees certainly respected the Sox, Casey Stengel, Tony Kubek, Skowron all said at various times the only team they had to really think about going into each season was the White Sox.

June 13, 1957 - The Sox and Yankees hooked up in perhaps the greatest ‘base-brawl’ in history. In the first inning at Comiskey Park, New York’s Art Ditmar threw a pitch at the head of the Sox Larry Doby. As the pitch rolled to the wall, Ditmar ran to cover home. Doby warned Ditmar about the pitch, and then threw a left hook which dropped him. The fight appeared to have racial overtones and lasted a full 30 minutes. Chicago native and future Sox player Bill "Moose" Skowron jumped on Doby which brought Walt Dropo into the fray. Dropo was 6-5, 220 pounds, and a monster for his time. At various times, “Whitey” Ford, Casey Stengel, "Jungle" Jim Rivera and Enos "Country" Slaughter were in the middle of it. Slaughter’s jersey and undershirt were ripped to pieces and his hat was backwards in one of the most famous photographs of the 1950's. After things settled down Billy Martin rushed into things and started in on Doby. Five players were ejected and fined for the melee. New York won the game 4-3.

“We have to have that killer mentality of ‘this guy is on third, we have to bring him in', but these guys are young, they’re getting good experience of ABs in situations that will help us down the road. There is development going on but we’re playing to win every day. “But it’s just not happening here."--Pedro Grifol

We shouldn't be surprised replay communication issues continue just like they did under TLR with this dysfunctional organization: “The way the challenge works, I look back and [bench coach] Charlie [Montoya] is on the phone counting down, and they tell me ‘challenge or not.’ Charlie was counting five, four, three and when he got to three he said challenge, I challenged and they said I ran out of time. I didn’t think I ran out of time.” -- Pedro Grifol