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McGuffey has also said numerous times on the podcast the Sox refused to finish the rebuild and specifically mentioned Hahn wanted to sign some "nine figure guys" (aka superstars) and was told no.

Remember people do a lot of stupid things.

The Sox can not do point #1 because JR has made it clear that he's told his family to sell the Sox and keep the Bulls because the salary structure in the NBA enables Michael to "make money." (But don't think for a nanosecond the Sox aren't making money too...) Point #2 while notable no business would box themselves in like that. Point #3, this may be possible since the NBC Sports Chicago deal is up relatively soon but again I wouldn't hold my breath.

It'll be hard for him to do anything in six years since he is likely not to be around.

In 1985 they won 85 games if I remember right. I'd take that right now.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/8/28/23849662/top-cop-defends-white-sox-game-two-fans-gunfire-no-details-what-happened

August 28, 1909 – In the second inning of the opener of a doubleheader at South Side Park, Washington’s William “Dolly” Gray set two Major League records against the White Sox. He walked eight batters in the inning, seven of them consecutive. Pat “Patsy” Dougherty led off the inning with a single, and #5 hitter Frank Isbell either sacrificed Doughtery to second or made an out (a play-by-play for the game isn’t available). And then, the parade of walks — from #6 hitter Lee Tannehill all the way back through the order to Doughtery began. The White Sox scored six in the inning, all ‘driven in’ with walks. The second time Doughtery went to bat, with six straight walks already in the books, White Sox manager Billy Sullivan suggested Doughtery leave his bat in the dugout. The White Sox won, 6-4, with only Doughtery’s single hit. Gray’s one-hitter came with 11 total walks for the afternoon. The White Sox also won the nightcap, 2-1, walking just twice. August 28, 1938 – It was the most grueling stretch of baseball ever in Major League history. A series of rain outs forced the White Sox to play six consecutive double headers on six consecutive days from August 23 through August 28. They played four games against the Yankees in two days, six games against the Red Sox in three days and two games against the Athletics. All were on the road. For the month the White Sox had to play 13 double headers! Despite the incredible stretch of games, they finished the month with a record of 16-22 which really wasn’t that bad. August 28, 1960 - Of all the crazy games and things that have happened when the Sox played at Baltimore, this one topped the list. The Sox started the day two and a half games behind the Yankees and trailed the O’s 3-0 going into the eighth inning. With two out, Luis Aparicio, Nellie Fox and Roy Sievers ripped consecutive singles, scoring a run and putting the tying runs on base. Manager Al Lopez called on Ted Kluszewski to pinch hit. “Big Klu” drilled the pitch from Milt Pappas into the right field stands for an apparent three run homer except for one small thing… Third base umpire Ed Hurley called time! Nobody remembered seeing him do it but he refused to change his call. Fox was ejected in the confrontation afterwards and Lopez played the game under protest. Hurley called time right before the pitch to tell Sox players Floyd Robinson and Earl Torgeson that they were warming up in the wrong area. The next day Hurley was quoted in the newspapers as saying "I wish to heck I hadn’t called it; I’d gladly take it back.” End result was the Sox lost 3-1, and were now three games behind the Yankees. Kluszewski later recalled that this game was the one that broke the team’s spirit that season. August 28, 1983 - Greg Luzinski completed his ‘downtown triple crown’ by blasting a pitch from Boston’s Dennis “Oil Can” Boyd over the roof in left center field in the first inning. It was Luzinski’s third roof shot in 1983 the others came versus the Twins and Yankees. Greg would have four roof top home runs in his White Sox career. The Sox took care of Boston on this afternoon 6-2 before over 33-thousand fans. August 28, 1990 - Frank Thomas, who would become the White Sox all-time home run leader, belted his first big league round tripper. Thomas connected in the ninth inning of a game at the Metrodome off the Twins Gary Wayne. The Sox would lose that day 12-6. Thomas had 448 home runs in a Sox uniform. August 28, 1998 - The Sox and Rangers combined for 14 home runs in a double header at Comiskey Park, tying the American League mark. The teams hit seven in the first game, seven in the second. Texas and the Sox split the two games on the day.

His point is JR refuses to pay for elite top-of-the-line, game changing talent and that certainly has played a part in their situation in my opinion. It's the Sox, Oakland and Kansas City that have never done so. That's some company the Sox are keeping isn't it?

His back is still an issue and soon after this season ends he needs to s%*# or get off the pot, have the surgery or not. If he doesn't, I'm willing to wager it causes him issues yet again in 2024.

Based on all the reports that have been coming out from various people/sources (including mine this past off season) he isn't the "baseball-smartest" guy around and seems to be a disruptive clubhouse presence.

What is BT?

Absolutely correct. I could see JR getting some help from some community be it Chicago or a suburb, say with the land...but the stadium itself? Let the cheap SOB pay for it himself like Joe Robbie did in Miami and the Giants owner did.

Given the lack of starting pitching unless the Sox are willing to go out and somehow acquire three starting pitchers you have to give consideration to Clevinger returning next year like it or not. He has been solid in this disaster of a season.

Enjoy it next season because after that "he gone..." (and rightfully so)

The Athletic from a few days ago.

August 27, 1910 - Comiskey Park hosted the first night game ever played in a Major League stadium as two Chicago amateur clubs played before 20,000 fans. The teams were Logan Square and Rogers Park. 20 arc lights were strung up along the perimeter of the field to accomplish it delivering 137,000 thousand candlepower of light. The system was the brainchild of inventor George F. Cahill. The first ‘official’ night game in Major League history took place in 1935 at Crosley Field in Cincinnati. August 27, 1911 – “Big” Ed Walsh fired a no-hitter against the Red Sox at Comiskey Park. It was the first time a Sox pitcher threw a no-hitter in that stadium. The final was 5-0. Walsh only allowed one base runner, Clyde Engle in the fourth inning, via a walk. He struck out eight in winning his 24th game of the year. August 27, 2007 - In the midst of a dismal season the Sox produced one highlight. They cranked out four home runs in the seventh inning of a game at U.S. Cellular Field and beat the Devil Rays 5-4. The home runs were hit by A.J. Pierzynski, Jermaine Dye, Juan Uribe and Josh Fields. Pierzynski, Dye and Uribe went back-to-back-to-back. August 27, 2021 – It was one of the wildest games the Sox ever played especially in their series against the Cubs as they came from six runs down to beat them 17-13 at Guaranteed Rate Field. The Sox trailed 6-0 after a half inning as starter Dallas Keuchel got lit up by the North Siders but then the Sox scored nine unanswered runs to grab a lead that they never lost. Catcher Yasmani Grandal, fresh off the injured list that he went on in early July with a torn knee tendon, drove in a franchise tying eight RBI’s on the night. Grandal had a pair of three run home runs and a two run double. He went 4 for 6 with two runs scored. Also of note in the game was the relief work by pitcher Reynaldo Lopez. He came on replacing Keuchel in the second inning and retired 15 straight Cubs striking out seven. He became the first Sox relief pitcher to retire 15 in a row since Ed Cicotte in 1917!

From Sox Machine site today: "Meanwhile, at FanGraphs, Michael Baumann does a good job of informing the general baseball audience about Reinsdorf being the root of all the White Sox’s problems, and how much of a(n AL Central) force they could be without him. That last concept always needs to be appended to any allegations that Reinsdorf wants to win, and assumptions that losing makes Reinsdorf miserable. It’s another form of the famous-to-me Cigar Aficionado quote about Reinsdorf’s m.o. from 1995: “Throughout the fall and winter, he was still driven by the dream: to create a World Series winner in a business climate that made sense to him.” https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-white-sox-are-getting-a-facelift-they-need-a-new-head/

Merkin no longer has his Michigan grad buddy feeding him inside information.

As of a few years ago CPD figures showed the area around "Wrigleyville" actually had more crime reported than the area around Sox park. And it was just a few years ago a person was murdered right outside of the Wrigley Field area, I remember reading about it in the newspapers.

https://soxmachine.com/2023/08/the-white-soxs-worst-week-isnt-over-yet/

Or someone outside of the stadium, screwing around, pointed the gun in the air at say a 45 degree angle and fired off a few rounds and they came down inside the stadium.

From Keith Law: "A person familiar with Reinsdorf once explained to me the likely reasoning for Reinsdorf’s front-office insularity. It had to do with his relationship with Larry Himes, the former Sox GM. Himes did a fantastic job in the MLB Draft, selecting Jack McDowell, Robin Ventura, Frank Thomas and Alex Fernandez in a four-year span. (He also traded Reinsdorf favorite Harold Baines for a package that included Wilson Álvarez and Sammy Sosa.) But Himes was an outsider. He wasn’t deferential to Reinsdorf. And so he was gone after the 1990 season despite the Sox winning 94 games. (They’ve won 94 or more games just three times since then.) Ron Schueler, a Sox guy, was next up, and then came Kenny Williams and here we are today."

From what I Just read the CPD is now saying the shooting took place outside of the stadium.

If it is maintained properly by the owners, yes...it will be fine.

August 26, 1933 - The Sox honored one of the greatest pitchers in franchise history when Ted Lyons day was celebrated at Comiskey Park. Lyons though didn’t have his best stuff that day as he took the loss in the 10-5 decision to the Philadelphia A’s. He gave up eight runs in a little over seven innings of work. Lyons and Bill Veeck are the only individuals associated with the franchise to have two testimonial days in their honor. Lyons’ second one would come in 1940. August 26, 1971 - It was the kind of thing that could only happen to the White Sox and only in Baltimore’s “House of Horrors,” Memorial Stadium. The Sox trailed 6-0 before mounting a big comeback that saw them take a 9-8 lead in the ninth inning thanks to a home run by Mike Andrews. With two outs, torrential rain hit the area and after a wait of almost an hour and a half, the game was called. Because of rules in place at the time, the score reverted back to the last completed inning, the eighth, which saw Baltimore ahead 8-7. That’s the way the game ended...a seemingly typical result when playing the Orioles in Baltimore where odd and bizarre circumstances seemed to constantly hit the White Sox over the years.