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Nightengale also specifically said that Hendriks wouldn't be traded next year either and that the Sox would pick up his fourth year option for what its worth. (Again consider the source) Again because JR likes him. ?

It's not just the pitching coach that doesn't know what they are doing with the Sox staff. And if you go back to the thread where he was released you'll see where I stated it would be just like the White Sox that Tampa turns him around he becomes effective.

No media member is their right mind would ask your question using the words you stated. They could ask it this way, "Rick the rebuild hasn't turned out like anyone hoped. Why should Sox fans believe the current front office can turn this situation around? Why should they continue to give the front office the benefit of the doubt?"

According to the injury report at White Sox.com a few days ago, Moncada is not expected back before August. I've learned very quickly that Grifol like Rick Hahn knowns nothing about injuries and expected returns. Anytime they talk they are guessing. If the Sox had any sense, instead of these idiots trying to answer medical questions, they'd drag out the doctors and trainers to speak with the media directly without any BS.

I haven't lost any sleep over the glorified popularity contest All-Star Game in decades. As far as I'm concerned can it and give the players the week off (like they are now doing in the NBA, a week off during the season) If you want me to care again, fans no longer have a vote period or if they do they are only allowed one vote and not every team must be represented. Personally I'm in favor of putting all stats into a computer and have them rank the qualified candidates by position. Top two infielders at each spot go, top six outfielders go, top two catchers go, top two DH's go. Top five starting pitchers go, top five relief pitchers go. 28 players total for each league.

With the White Sox luck his swing will get screwed up big time for a farce exhibition.

If you believe Nightengale (JR's mouthpiece) Hendriks won't be traded regardless of his health status because "he is one of JR's favorites..." ? The owner yet again sticking his nose into an area where it doesn't belong.

The Sox have actually had a lead going into the 7th inning or later 11 times now...and wound up losing the game: March 31 (7th) Graveman/Diekman April 14 (7th) Diekman/Lopez April 21 (9th) Lopez April 29 (7th) Lynn May 4 (8th) Lopez May 27 (7th) Kelly May 28 (9th) Kelly June 10 (9th) Kelly June 11 (9th) Graveman July 1 (8th) Kelly July 4 (8th) Kelly The most expensive bullpen in Major League baseball... ?????

Hey if they get rained out they can't lose!!! Let's all do a rain dance and give us all the night off from the misery!

July 5, 1987 - The Sox tied the franchise mark for the most lopsided win when they beat the Indians 17-0 at Cleveland. Kenny Williams and Harold Baines each drove in four RBI’s in the rout with Ozzie Guillen and Greg Walker knocking in three each. Future Hall of Famer Phil Niekro was saddled with the loss.

I think he's posturing post season starting pitcher wins.

Hahn will somehow mention at some point that not having Hendriks messed up his entire plan! LOL. Scoreboard time! So who blew the games??????????????? Kelly - 5 Lopez - 2 1/2 Graveman - 1 1/2 Diekman - 1 Lynn - 1 *There were a few games where two pitchers were responsible for losing the lead in a single inning*

No they'll sign a few has been's, injury prone guys on cheap one year deals and hope to catch lightening in a bottle.

It really is. You'd think that JR would basically say, "wait a minute, I've spent hundreds of millions of dollars on your trades and free agent signings and THIS is what I've got to show for it???????????" But don't be fooled, they aren't losing money.

Nope... Lopez is "credited" with only blowing two and a half. He shared blowing a game with Diekman.

11th time this year the Sox had a lead in the 7th inning or later...and lost the game. Kelly has now been directly responsible for five of those blown games. Five. 50 losses...halfway to 100!

By the time they return Eloy, Robert, Giolito, Graveman et al will probably be ready to take their place on the IL...that's the White Sox way.

I would be shocked if JR fired him...kicked him upstairs? Maybe...but fired...no.

Opening Day 1976 at Comiskey Park: April 9, 1976 – Owner Bill Veeck was back and 40,318 fans turned out to say welcome home Bill on opening day. They got their money’s worth, as in a tribute to the Bicentennial, Veeck, manager Paul Richards and front office executive Rudy Schaffer presented the colors dressed as the fife player, drummer and flag bearer of the Revolutionary War. The stunt was unannounced and came as a last-minute brainstorm by Veeck who along with G.M. Roland Hemond had to convince Richards to dress up. As far as the game itself Wilbur Wood tossed a complete game six-hitter and Jim Spencer had a two-run home run in the 4-0 win against Kansas City.

One could make the case the season was officially over on May 1 after that horrible April. As bad as the division is, with all the injuries and shortcomings thanks to an incompetent front office this team isn't going anywhere and needs to start the rebuild of the rebuild at the trade deadline.

July 4, 1960 - Bill Veeck’s exploding scoreboard was featured in a night shot on the cover of Sports Illustrated. The caption read, “Fireworks at Comiskey Park.” July 4-5, 1964 - During the 1960's the White Sox were synonymous with outstanding pitching...pitching that was the envy of most of Major League baseball excluding only perhaps, the Dodgers. The best example of this were these two days in Chicago over the Fourth of July holiday in 1964. In a time span of roughly 28 hours, the White Sox threw three straight complete game shutouts against the Indians. On the Fourth of July itself, Gary Peters blanked the Tribe on three hits, winning 4-0. In the Sunday doubleheader it was Juan Pizarro in game one, tossing a seven hitter, winning 2-0. Then in the nightcap it was Joe Horlen with a 5-0 blanking on four hits. In 27 innings, Cleveland managed no runs on 14 hits with seven walks. Now that’s pitching!!! July 4, 1972 - Sox catcher Ed Herrmann was involved in three double plays which tied the record for most involving a catcher in a single game. He tied former teammate J.C. Martin for the honor. The three included Herrmann in the middle of a pitcher-catcher-first base one, a strike out-throw out stealing twin killing and a thrown out at home, thrown out at second base one. The Sox turned five double plays against Baltimore at Comiskey Park… but lost 2-1! July 4, 1978 - At the urging of then manager Larry Doby, the White Sox brought up Tony LaRussa to become the club’s new first base coach. LaRussa cut his teeth managing with success in the minor leagues at Knoxville and was deemed ready by Doby and others to take the next step. LaRussa would go on to lead the Sox to the 1983 Western Division title and then win numerous pennants and championships as a manager with the A’s and Cardinals. He’d be elected to the Hall of Fame in 2014 with 2,728 wins over 33 seasons. He’d come out of retirement in 2021 to lead the White Sox and move into second place all-time on the managerial wins list in addition to winning the division and making the playoffs. July 4, 2000 - Ray Durham and Jose Valentin led off the Sox half of the first inning in Kansas City with back-to-back home runs. It was the second time in team history a game started that way and the first time since 1937. The game also marked the Major League debut for Jon Garland who only lasted three innings in the 10-7 loss. It was the end of the Sox 12 game road winning streak. The last 10 of those 12 road wins came against teams with records of at least .500, making the Sox the only team since 1900 to accomplish that. July 4, 2022 – Fundamentals win (or lose) games and for years the White Sox have suffered because they don’t execute the things very well that often mean the difference between winning and losing. On this night though what they did made the record book. In the seventh inning of a tie game against the Twins A.J. Pollock hit a long drive to right center field that was caught on the warning track by Byron Buxton who immediately threw the ball back to the infield. What happened next had never happened before in the history of baseball. Pinch runner Adam Engel and Yoan Moncada both lost track of the ball and assumed it hit the wall and was in play. Engel was at third base but had never tagged up, Moncada was right behind him. As Buxton’s throw bounced in to the infield, Twins third baseman Gio Urshela was in perfect position to tag Moncada for the second out, then ran and touched second base which meant Engel was also out. It was an 8-5 scored triple-play the first in baseball history. The White Sox would lose a key game 6-2 in 10 innings with the triple-play caused by errant baserunning probably costing them an important win.

Until he injures himself again.

Supposedly he's been returned to Charlotte and not released.

The conversation I was referring to took place in 2008. Here are my notes from it just FYI (perhaps to provide better context): “There’s been a few. We can’t seem to ever get the Yankees here at home during the summer on a weekend anymore. We’ve been getting them during the week in April or in September. The Indians meanwhile have gotten them twice in Cleveland on a weekend during the summer months just in one season. I know that baseball likes to try to help teams that may be hurting at the gate but the Indians led the league in attendance in the 90’s, they aren’t struggling.” “Another issue that we have is these short West Coast road trips. Twice this season we’ve had to go to the coast just for three games. We played the Dodgers three times then came back to Chicago and in the middle of August we have to go to Oakland just for three games. And last year baseball was so late in bringing out the schedule that we lost valuable sales time in September trying to get season tickets sold. Folks like to know who the Sox will be playing and we try to give them an idea in September. Last year baseball kept revising the schedule so much that we couldn’t do it because we didn’t have the information. We were told for example that the Mets were going to come to Chicago on a weekend which would have meant a big crowd, and then when the final schedule came out, the league sent the Mets to Detroit.” “And the interleague schedule now just has no sense to it. We’ve played the Pirates three consecutive seasons but we haven’t played the Brewers, a team only 90 miles away, since 2000.” “I know a lot of people thought the issue with the schedule was due to the husband and wife team that was putting them together so baseball changed to different folks. Then the thinking was that the issue was because many of the people working on the schedule spent the majority of their time in the National League, that maybe they didn’t understand the A.L. or the rivalries but apparently that’s not the issue either. I honestly think though that baseball does favor certain teams regarding the schedule.”

The White Sox have generally been upset with the schedules they have been given for years now. I was told by a front office person that at one point JR told them to compare the Sox schedule to others around baseball and to note the differences which were then brought up to the league. Examples I was given were seemingly always playing the Pirates but not the Brewers only 90 miles north, always getting the Yankees during the week instead of on a weekend during the summer and short road trips to the West Coast or playing on the coast, coming home for a short home stand (3 or 4 games) and then having to go back out to the coast.