Lip Man 1

This isn't supporting, defending or condemning TLR, JR, Einhorn or anyone. Simply stating a fact. AT THE TIME the stretch from 1981-1985 was the best since the Sox Golden Era from 1951-1967. That's what the numbers say.

Don't forget in 1970 the White Sox won 56 games...in 1971 they won 79 games. +23 In 1989 the Sox won 69 games...in 1990 they won 94 games. +25

Only possibility of this happening would be if JR is no longer running the franchise and even then it's a very slim possibility.

As befitting a team that doesn't draw walks nor hit for a high average nor has a high on-base percentage... 30 of the last 41 White Sox home runs have been solo blasts.

Grifol on Moncada to DVS of the Sun-Times: " It could be 10 days, it could be two weeks. I don't have an answer." (Moncada isn't expected back until after the All-Star break...if then.) Other injury news: Grandal scratched from Wednesday's game (sore knee), Crochet got a cortisone shot isn't expected back for two or three weeks and Anderson hasn't played since the weekend in the field but they still haven't put him on the IL. What an operation...?

Meanwhile Anderson STILL hasn't played and they STILL haven't put him on the IL! ?????

AT THE TIME (1986) of the firing the period from 1981-1985 was the best stretch since the Golden Era. Since after 1967 the Sox only posted winning years in 1972 and 1977. Hence what I wrote.

I can't believe the MLBPA hasn't looked into this matter already.

June 21, 1942 - Sox pitcher and future Hall of Famer Ted Lyons won his 250th career game beating the Red Sox 6-5. That season Lyons only pitched on Sunday’s and posted this incredible statistic. In his 20 starts that year he completed all 20 games! He went 14-6 with an ERA of 2.10 which led the American League. At the end of the season Lyons joined the Marines and served four years during World War II. June 21, 1956 - It was either a case of great pitching, or terrible hitting, as the Sox beat the Orioles 1-0 in a game that took just 2:12. Both Baltimore starter Connie Johnson, who used to pitch for the Sox, and the Sox Jack Harshman each allowed the opposition only one hit. The Sox scored their run in the first inning when “Jungle” Jim Rivera walked, stole second and scored on a double by Nellie Fox. The Orioles only hit came in the seventh inning, a double off the bat of Gus Triandos. June 21, 1964 - The Sox dropped their ninth straight game on the season to the Yankees 2-1 in 17 innings. It allowed New York to sweep the twin bill with the Sox scoring only one run on the day in 26 innings. This one really hurt because New York got the winning run home thanks to an error by infielder Al Weis. The Sox would lose another one to the Yanks the next day running the streak to 10 in a row, before finally winning against them in August with a four-game series sweep. Those losses were very costly since in 1964 the Sox ended the year...one game, behind the Yankees. June 21, 1973 - Sox pitcher Stan Bahnsen, a 21-game winner in 1972, threw one of the strangest shutouts in baseball history. Bahnsen beat the A’s 2-0 at Comiskey Park. He allowed 12 hits and a walk in the process. The A’s left 10 men on base. It was two off the record for most hits allowed in a shutout.

More White Sox specialty: dumpster diving other teams cast off's. Hahn has made a habit of this because the minor league system is so awful.

Grifol was quoted as saying this is a "precautionary" move by the White Sox that he's only sore and they are taking it safe since he had TJS. If you believe that I've got a bridge in NYC I can sell you.

9th time this year the Sox trailed in the 7th inning or later and won the game.

Because he's a "house" organ.

Anderson not playing but still not put on the IL ?

September 15, 1990 - Owner Jerry Reinsdorf fired G.M. Larry Himes citing ‘personality differences.’ Himes drafted and signed Sox future stars like Frank Thomas, Jack McDowell, Robin Ventura and Alex Fernandez. During the press conference announcing the hiring of Ron Schueler as new G.M., Reinsdorf issued his famous ‘Point A to point B to point C’ comment. Later in a rare radio appearance he was candid on the subject to host Chet Coppock. “The fact is Larry Himes cannot get along with anybody. You can hardly find anybody in the Sox organization that wasn’t happy when Larry Himes left.”

No the Cubs still have their beat writer.

And when it does happen (as well it should) Hahn will blame everything but himself and the incompetent front office.

Circumstances can change of course but I can't see any reasonable way JR passes ownership to Michael while he is alive. Not happening.

None of this bothers me anymore, the ASG is a farce and has turned into a popularity contest. Fans shouldn't be allowed to vote or if they are should only be allowed to vote one time, like in a political election. Every team also should not be represented. If you are a bad team, you shouldn't be rewarded with a mediocre player getting picked just to have representation.

To be fair to TLR it was the best stretch of winning since the Golden Age 1951-1967. The Sox had winning seasons is four of five years...1981, 1982, 1983 and 1985.

The family already owns a team the Bulls who in JR's words, "Makes Michael (Reinsdorf) money."

It is in his contract that JR has the authority to run the White Sox as he sees fit. The minority owners ( aka members of the board) almost literally have no say...none in things. If he wanted to hand off control he has the legal authority to do so. But he doesn't want to do this. For example after 2005 some members of the board wanted JR to sell the club when the iron was hot, he refused. In 2008 Andrew Berlin twice tried to buy the club, JR refused.

By all accounts Michael and the family are not taking over. Team will be sold (probably to a corporation) as per JR's wishes.

June 20, 1926 - In a game with the Yankees that the Sox won 4-3; they set the record for the largest crowd to see a game at Comiskey Park before the upper deck was added. 43-thousand were on hand for the contest; so many fans were in the park they were allowed to ring the outfield wall standing on the playing field. That may have contributed to the Sox final run in the eighth inning as Willie Kamm’s drive went into the fans on the field, it was scored as a double and drove home Earl Sheely with what proved to be the winning run. June 20, 1945 - In the eighth inning of a game in St. Louis a brawl broke out between the White Sox and Browns players. As Browns pitcher George Caster was leaving the mound he fired the ball toward the Chicago dugout, but missed, hitting the adjacent wall. White Sox players charged onto the field and several of the Browns charged the Chicago dugout where they attacked White Sox batting practice pitcher and ex-Marine Karl Scheel whom they beat for several minutes, claiming he had been riding them in a personal way all game, when that confrontation was broken up, the game resumed with no one being ejected; many fans came on the field and the game was delayed for several minutes. Scheel was carried to the clubhouse for first aid. Several Browns were fined by the league. The Sox would win the game 4-1. June 20, 1973 - Sox relief pitcher Cy Acosta became the first pitcher to actually hit for the team, in the designated hitter era, when he struck out in the eighth inning of an 8-3 win over Nolan Ryan and the Angels at Comiskey Park. Rich Hand was the Angels pitcher who struck him out. Acosta came to bat because manager Chuck Tanner pulled Dick Allen after a six run, seventh inning and moved Tony Muser from DH to first base. That meant the Sox gave-up the DH and Acosta took the spot in the batting order. June 20, 1980 - Tigers outfielder Al Cowens attacked Sox relief pitcher Ed Farmer. In the 11th inning of a game at Comiskey Park, Cowens ran towards Farmer after hitting a ground ball instead of running towards first base. The two had a melee on the mound. One-year earlier Farmer broke his jaw when he was pitching for Texas on an errant pitch. Chicago police went looking for Cowens after the game to press assault charges. Farmer, who had polycystic kidney disease, ended up on the bottom of the pile, where his cysts burst and his kidneys weakened. He would be an All-Star the next month, amid his greatest season, but Farmer said from the moment after the brawl he felt weaker, and was never the same pitcher. June 20, 1986 - In what he admitted was one of the biggest mistakes he’d ever made, Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf approved the firing of manager Tony LaRussa. LaRussa and his staff simply didn’t get along with new G.M. Ken “Hawk” Harrelson and his unusual ideas, and with the team struggling on the field, the decision to let him go was made. LaRussa, who won over 500 games for the White Sox and the 1983 Western Division championship, was hired by the A’s three weeks later. He eventually took both Oakland and St. Louis to the World Series winning three titles and was elected to the Hall of Fame in 2014 before coming back to manage the White Sox starting in the 2021 campaign. Harrelson resigned his position after one season in charge of the White Sox. That year the club went 72-90 ending up in fifth place in the Western Division. Reinsdorf later explained the situation surrounding Harrelson’s hiring as G.M. to the Chicago Tribune. “Eddie (Einhorn) and I would talk to “Hawk” and (Don) Drysdale at length, and “Hawk” more so, to identify problems in the organization, we were still neophytes in this business and we were impressed with the way “Hawk” pointed out our problems. [GM] wasn't something he really wanted him to do, but we urged him to help us out. The mistake was that when you go to a doctor who diagnoses open-heart surgery, you don't have him do the surgery because he diagnosed the problem, you get a heart surgeon. Just because “Hawk” was able to diagnose our problems did not mean he could solve them. It was a terrible position to put him in, and a year later, he said he wanted out." June 20, 2006 - In a home game the White Sox would set the team mark for the most runs ever scored in the third inning of a game when 11 men crossed the plate against the Cardinals. Chicago area native Mark Mulder was the victim of the onslaught which saw the Sox win 20-6. The Sox sent 16 men to the plate and had 11 hits in the inning.

It will happen sooner or later because it must. People do not live forever.