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Maybe a better question would be what free agent would WANT to sign with this organization unless they overpay given the poor track record.

Correct in my opinion. Hahn "hoped" they'd get through the year OK on this issue. "Hope" is not a strategy. "Hope" rarely works out.

This is a terrific piece looking at the total history of Rick's free agent signings and the value, positive or negative, they brought to the Sox: https://www.southsidesox.com/2023/4/13/23681821/white-sox-a-rick-hahn-assessment-part-two-free-agency There's also a link to the previous story on a deep-dive in his trade history.

Let's just say you are close in your guessing.

Had MLB had two divisions say during the Sox "Golden Age" from 1951-1967 they would have made the post season six times. And 1965 wasn't even their best club...that was 1964.

I wish I could say this is a possibility but literally everything I've been told by numerous folks who would know, say this is a pipedream. As long as JR is alive he's not selling and he is loath to fire anybody (as long as they are loyal and the Sox are making money).

Well since the start of the 2007 season the Sox have had only five winning seasons out of 16 years so those numbers make sense.

I don't know if the Sox deliberately tanked the Machado situation but I was told by a source he used the Sox, he had no intention of signing with them.

April 13, 1965 - The Sox turned the tide so to speak from 1964, beating the Orioles in Baltimore opening day, by the score of 5-3. They lost to the same club to open the 1964 season at Comiskey Park by the exact same margin. Tommy John, making his White Sox debut, picked up the save for Gary Peters. He struck out “Boog” Powell with two on in the ninth inning to close it out. The 1965 White Sox would win 95 games under Al Lopez in his last full season as Sox skipper. They finished in second place, seven games out. April 13, 2009 - The White Sox beat the Tigers, 10-6, in a unique game in baseball history. Jermaine Dye and Paul Konerko hit back-to-back home runs in the second inning — both times reaching the 300-homer career mark! According to Baseball-Reference, no teammates have EVER reached 300, 400, or 500 home run milestones in the same game, much less the same inning or with back-to-back blasts.

The do have a seat at the table...the kids table.

90 losses, 88 losses, 87 losses. It's all the same crap...another losing season, another year urinated away in a supposed "window of contention." If you can't at the very least win more games than you lose the number of losses really is irrelevant (save for draft position)

Exactly correct. In that case the fascinating item is going to be how Hahn "sells" this to a fan base ready to come after him with pitchforks and burning torches.

No they shouldn't but the reality is JR apparently has lost interest (if you listen to Hawk and others) and if the last 15 years of dysfunction hasn't gotten through to him nothing will. He's made it plain publicly multiple times he's not selling (primarily because of a massive tax hit) so there's only one thing left that will cause the needed change.

Thank you. I'm glad you enjoy reading them.

Among countless others as well. ?

Because he gets to make a terrific salary without being held accountable for anything.

The only good thing I can think of is the Sox have played four series, three on the road and not gotten swept. That's it gang. Sox by the way have had 10 total hits in the last two games. If Moncada doesn't play Friday he'll have been out a week, without the Sox putting him on the IL, and playing shorthanded. Not that they have anyone in the minors they could call up to really help anyway. This season is getting flushed right down the toilet. We'll see what words of wisdom Hahn has to say about it all this weekend when he meets with the media.

April 12, 1966 - The Sox opened the season with a 3-2 win over the Angels in 14 innings. Tommy McCraw delivered the game winning hit. Rookie Tommy Agee would crack a two-run home run off Dean Chance in the seventh inning to begin his season, which would end with him being named the Rookie of the Year and the first Sox player to ever hit 20 home runs and steal 20 bases in the same year. But the game became known for what the 28-thousand plus fans sang to open the afternoon...it was not ‘‘The Star-Spangled Banner’’ but ‘‘God Bless America.’’ The Sox made the change because as G.M. Ed Short said the fans, “Just weren’t singing.” Short said the Sox wanted a patriotic song that carried the spirit but also something fans could actually sing to. Songwriter Irving Berlin (“White Christmas”) would write a letter to the Sox begging them to go back to the original anthem. The Sox then decided to let the fans vote on which they preferred. ‘‘The Star-Spangled Banner’’ won. April 12, 1967 - The bittersweet 1967 season opened with a 5-4 loss in Boston to the eventual American League champions. Boston scored four early runs off of Johnny Buzhardt and the Sox were never able to catch up. The White Sox would go into the final week of the season in position to take their first pennant since 1959...only to lose five in a row to bottom feeders Kansas City and Washington which ended that dream. They finished in fourth place, three games out with a record of 89-73. April 12, 1977 - Former high school teacher and Milwaukee radio broadcaster Mary Shane became one of the first female announcers in MLB history when she began doing Sox games. Mary joined Lorn Brown, Harry Caray and Jimmy Piersall in the booth for roughly 20-35 games. Caray invited her to join him in the booth when the Sox were in Milwaukee in 1976. She was covering sports for a Milwaukee radio station. Caray was taken by the fact that she was a rare female working in the business and asked her to join him, then shocked her by asking her to do some play-by-play. She worked with him again the next day then that off season got a call from WMAQ radio general manager Charlie Warner with a job offer. She only lasted the 1977 season. She returned to Massachusetts where she became an award-winning sportswriter covering the Celtics, before passing away at an early age on November 3, 1987.

"Talk to me after the parade..." - Rick Hahn

Loath this Manfred rule.

Blame it on the idiot commissioner who hates the game. Why they don't do it like in japan, after a certain number of innings the game is a tie, is beyond me.

Once again like the Pirates game Sunday, in the first inning tonight and then again in the 10th inning, they have a runner on third base, less than two out and can't get him home. Then a throwing error wins the game for the Twins. Fundamentals win or lose games are the Sox are absolutely brutal at them and have been for years regardless of who the manager is. Either the coaching staffs can't teach it properly or the players are to "baseball stupid" to learn it. I'm guessing it is probably a combination of both.

The "good" news (I guess) is that if what you say happens Sox fans will at least know early, the season is probably toast and can tune them out.

Can't wait to read Rick's comments on things before the start of the homestand Friday when he meets the media. ?

Among many other issues in the front office. Including in-fighting.