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God Red Sox fans are the worst. Urias starts the Sale package. De Leon, Bellinger and 3 more.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 04:51 PM) Because I have too much time on my hands at work i was looking at Boston's roster heavily and trying to come up with a package not centered around Moncada for Sale that would be realistic for both sides. Would anybody actually do the following deal? That was the best deal I could come up with that I think Boston would realistically do. Travis Shaw Eduardo Rodriguez Rafael Devers Andrew Benintendi Michael Kopech Michael Chavis Oh f*** that. They are giving up Moncada. Sale and Q are worth Moncada headlined package. Sale has even more value than Q (not sure how much) so Moncada has to be in it. I've been saying he needs to headline the Q one. He should. Qs track record, contract and age speak for itself. If Hahn can't get Moncada that's a failure IMO.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 04:27 PM) Including both of those in a deal for Quintana seems like high. I can see one of them. We'll see how the market plays out. Neither are a guarantee. What you get with Q has been established minus the chance of an injury. So Hahn better get both.

This is exactly why if Q is traded to Boston, Moncada and Benintendi headline it.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 03:44 PM) I'm confident they'll get the best deal available because like you said they don't have to move them. However, I'm sure there will be plenty of people who will insist there were better deals out there. The only way I will, is if they don't land Moncada back. He absolutely needs to headline this deal if Boston acquires Quintana. Considering the market and some of the returns lately, Quintana is worth Moncada and Benintendi+.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 03:31 PM) Right they should only move now if the deal is truly astronomical because one team is trying to get the pieces before another. Otherwise wait until the deal improves. Exactly. I trust Hahn because they don't have to move him. They could do it in the offseason. Same for Sale although I think Boston ponies up for Q rather than Sale.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 03:13 PM) Pass. I wish some NL teams would get into the game here...but it doesn't appear that they will. Houston and Boston look like the possibilities. Those 2 teams have the GMs most willing to pay a haul (edge there to Boston, but Houston has certainly paid high prices for players recently). And they have position prospects. Prefer a position headliner to pitcher because, in the end, what do we want out of the pitching...another Sale or Q? Well, we have that bird in the hand. And I'd rather Sale/Q pitch for Houston...it will be a touch nauseating seeing either with Boston. LAD are the only LA team besides PIT that may get involved that I know of.

They'll get Quintana and Robertson in a deal. Do they need Frazier as well? I can't remember how 3B is for them? Blockbuster involving Q, DRob, Frazier for Moncada+

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 09:46 AM) I've learned to never doubt Dombrowski. He usually gets his guy. Ala Price, Miggy, etc.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 05:56 AM) Anyone hear the Heyman interview on Mulley & Hanley this morning? My Cubs buddy claims he said that Quintana gets you half of what Sale does. Can anyone verify that? If true, then definitely deal Sale and hold onto Q. I don't know about all that. Quintana has very good value.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 09:33 PM) If that's the case i really hope we don't trade Q. Those are good players but it's not an overwhelming package at all. The sox need to be overwhelmed to trade him. I think DD will blink and move Moncada if that's what will hold it up.

QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 08:53 PM) I'm not so sure. I know there's been talk of a mega deal with the Red Sox, but you would think adding in Robertson's contract would hurt Q's value if they were paired together. Part of what makes Q so valuable is not just his skill set but his team-friendly deal. Eh I don't think so really. He's blown some saves surely in awful fashion but he's still a solid closer. Q's value will never be higher. Adding Robertson doesn't hurt that. Just may sweaten it in order to make the package better. I'm sure Rabbit could give some insight on that but that's my opinion.

@JoelSherman1 #Yankees would be stockpiling SS behind Didi: Torres!and Mateo elite prospects but also Wade, Holder, Park. Gives them ammo (cont) To target SP in offseason or even to consider now if wanted to make a run at someone like Chris Sale. Edit: forgot to add first part. Sorry rough day for me lol.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 07:46 PM) Hahn will find a way to screw it up. I'm trying not to think that way although there's no reason to think he won't. He hasn't done well at all since taking over. Color me disappointed if he can't get Moncada, Benintendi+ for Quintana

Cubs look to be finalizing a trade for Chapman. Centered around Torres to NYY. Great get for the Bronx Bombers.

Ok, if Chapman nets you Torres from the Cubs, then Q better net Moncada and Benintendi.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 06:10 PM) I have no idea what you're trying to say lol. Was thinking about folding as in poker.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 06:13 PM) I think SouthSideSale is using the term "fold" as folding one's cards and walking away from the table whereas everyone else is using "fold" as meaning "giving in." Ya that's what I thought he meant. Fold as in its a poker game right now lol

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 05:40 PM) Your statements are pretty contradictory, as they read currently. Fixed it lol. Sorry typo

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 05:02 PM) It will be interesting to see if dombrowski folds. I don't think he will. Nor should he. Has a chance in a weaker AL to put the sox up on top with adding Sale/Q and Robertson. I think they still get Moncada+ for Quintan and Robertson. Edit: fixed sorry busy working typo

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 03:01 PM) I agree. That is why he won't be traded there. I think the sox get Moncada because Quintana or Sale aren't rentals. The value is there to give him up.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 04:48 PM) Benintendi is a capable headliner. Would be a great get for the Sox. I've followed Moncada since he came into the league. Wanted us to sign him, so my hearts set on him lol.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 24, 2016 -> 04:09 PM) It isn't worth getting that upset over. Just plays right into their hand

Boy did I call that one. Couldn't even watch it because I'm moving and cleaning. Thankfully I didn't have to see that

Would be fitting if this was Qs last game he gets a ND