Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 30, 2016 -> 02:54 PM) Robin platooned him the last two months of last season. I don't see why he wouldn't do it again, especially if we pick up Fowler/Jackson and kick Avi out of RF. With the current roster, who would you platoon him with? Sands? Olt?

There's really nothing wrong with giving him a shot in spring training. It's not like they've guaranteed him a spot in the rotation. Everyone take a step back from the ledge.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Jan 30, 2016 -> 08:04 AM) I think they will still keep k***' just because he's so cheap and so valuable as a utility guy. Gerrero and Van Slyke are the guys I can't see a spot for. I would take either 1, but isn't Guerrero automatically a FA if traded or something like that? Van Slyke makes a lot of sense for both sides in my opinion. Can't what they would want for him, but doubt it would be much. If he's traded he can opt out after this year but that still doesn't mean they can't trade him or re-work the deal prior if the player is willing. Van Slyke I think is a good bench option for them since he can take at bats from lefties (Ethier, Crawford, Gonzalez). If I had to predict their bench, I'd guess: Back up catcher Hernandez IF/OF Utley 1B/2B/3B Van Slyke 1B/OF (may be a good trade piece though) Ethier (assuming Puig starts. If traded, then Thompson) Thompson and Micah in the minors if they have options left.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 29, 2016 -> 11:04 PM) Definitely the college guys that are superstar quality get there a year or two later than the ARods, Harpers, Trouts and Correas. You can also blame PED's, it wouldn't have been the case 5-6 years ago that there was the prevailing assumption most players would be pretty much done at 34-36. You also have to consider this phenomenon as only screwing over Morales, Drew, Desmond (more his fault for rejecting original extension before last year)...and Gallardo/Fowler. You're not talking a massive amount of players. I do remember it working against Orlando Cabrera as well when KW and Ozzie basically pushed him off the 2009 team through the media. Compensation for free agents is likely going to be gone very soon anyway. Steve Stone was on that csn show yesterday evening and thinks it's really stupid which I tend to agree with.

QUOTE (StillMissOzzie @ Jan 30, 2016 -> 01:56 AM) After reading about the offer that Ian Desmond declined, he should go kick his agent's ass every day for the next seven years. It's one thing to turn down a QO, but what Desmond said no to is just stupid with a capital S. SMO Well if he had another regular Ian Desmond year he probably could have gotten more money. But yes in hindsight it sucks for him.

I don't think he's the odd man out in LA. I think they end up moving Guerrero this spring.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 29, 2016 -> 04:16 PM) Marcus Sem-ian desmond jennings Really trying to expand on this but I don't think there is anyone with a first name "Jennings" or last name of "Marcus" unfortunately.

QUOTE (BamaDoc @ Jan 29, 2016 -> 10:24 PM) Big Time. For the first time we saw players taking QO. Think in future many more older players begin to take. "In the future" this likely won't be the case at all and teams won't get compensation for free agents.

Soooo no follow up to this?

QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 29, 2016 -> 06:22 PM) BPA who at their selection, esp in the early rounds were probably pitchers. can someone ask if they think Fulmer is a SP or a RP ????? Of course they would say starter. He's a starter until he fails.

QUOTE (coco1997 @ Jan 29, 2016 -> 04:03 PM) Ian Desmond Jennings? Haha I was a bit confused about why that was posted in here.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jan 29, 2016 -> 12:35 PM) Crazy to see Longoria not on this list. Says a lot about the young 3B in the league. Hadn't even occurred to me until you pointed that out.

Carpenter is definitely underrated.

Will a radio station be covering this around 4:30? That's when I get off work and it usually takes me about 45 mins to get home. Would like to listen.

Probably a one day contract to retire with the team.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 04:10 PM) Jennings possible trade chip. Lots of teams linked to him already. I could see Loney potentially moved too.

How many OF/DH does Tampa need? Loney, Morrison, Jennings, Kiermaier, Souza Jr, and now Dickerson. Plus it sounds like Brad Miller will see some time in the OF (depending on what else they do at short).

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 09:40 AM) Fowler makes much more sense than most people think. Having him at the top of the order in front of guys like Abreu & Frazier could be a very nice thing. Sox really struggled to get on a base & ultimately score runs. They've added some power & now add a OBP guy like Fowler & that should equate for much more runs than some people think. Is he the missing piece? Maybe not, but he'll sure help. Agree and him in one of the corners has to be better than Avi or Melky. Add Fowler does have some power himself. I'm actually starting to warm up to the idea of him coming to our team. He's pretty much the only guy I would give up a pick for out of the remaining four players.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 09:32 AM) I left Avi off because I'm not sure what to do. Guess DH platoon but sucks to waste a roster spot on a guy who isn't good at any one thing. Agree. I'd rather not waste a bench spot on a guy who may only DH against lefties. Would rather have a guy who could get into the outfield moving Melky to DH.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 09:25 AM) I don't know what his 2 hole numbers have been but that's where I'd put him tentatively: Eaton Fowler Abreu Frazier Melky Lawrie LaRoche Navila Saladino This is the lineup I'd use too. LaRoche in the 7th spot takes a bit of pressure off of him. Get him in at first more often then last year to increase his value with his defense. I still hope we get a bat to platoon with him. Edit: oh yeah Avi (unless they deal him or send him to AAA.

QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 09:19 AM) If FO believes that he is a lock to leave they need to trade in 2 years to maximize that return then. So he may be gone in two years actually. If the next 2 years are bad and the future looks bleak, I could see them opening up to the possibility mid-2017. Also depends on the arms coming up which could still be drafted this year/already in the system.

Oh wait I always forget about his first year in the pen. That's what always throws it off for me.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 09:05 AM) It's actually three years of free agency. But on top of that they also gave him guaranteed money for his last pre-arbitration year and all three of his arbitration years. It definitely should be considered a long term extension as you are guaranteeing him his salary for 5 years where most pre-arbitration guys don't have that luxury. Ah for some reason I kept thinking it was 2. And I understand the concept of signing guys early. Teams like the Royals, Rays and Pirates seem to do that with everyone who comes up because they have to.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 09:05 AM) But it saved a ton of money. If the Sox did what Caulfield says is stupid, it would have cost them a lot more. Yes it did. And nothing that guy says ever makes much sense.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 08:57 AM) Yeah I'm not sure why anybody would argue that the Sale contract is anything less than gosh darn delightful for the Sox. I don't see where exactly I argued it isn't. Just saying it really only buys 2 years of control. It is a steal and everyone here knows it. Just acknowledging that he will still get paid.