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QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 11, 2017 -> 05:18 PM) Sox are going to be just throwing away AB's in the corner OF on total bums woh are longshots to even prove they are capable of being reserves. Right now Trayce Thompson is a capable fourth OF with potential to be an average starter...he'd be a much better candidate to give 600 PA's to this year than Willy Garcia or Rymer Liriano. Also, Trayce is under control for five more years. Montas still throws triple digits and would be a fine candidate to get some bullpen innings. I doubt the White Sox would trade Frazier for Montas straight up right now. Trayce's back is already going to keep him from beginning ST on time and he missed basically the entire second half of last season due to back issues. To honestly believe at this point he's going to be healthy enough to get 600 PAs next season is pretty out there. Montas throws hard but it doesn't do you any good if you can't stay on the field to throw that hard. And I fixed your last sentence for you too.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 11, 2017 -> 05:04 PM) I would take that Frazier trade back in a heartbeat. I know Frazier under-performed last year but you'd rather have a bad AAAA (at best) IF, a oft injured RP and an OF with a bad back and injury issues of his own? No thanks. The Sox sold high on all three of those players, and as the saying goes, it's better to trade a player(s) a year too early rather than a year too late.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 11, 2017 -> 03:12 PM) lol wat #potentialplayoffrotation 1. Jose Quintana 2. Carlos Rodon 3. JAMES SHIELDS 4. Miguel Gonzalez 5. Derek Holland? This bottom 3 has got the AL Central opposition knees buckling already. I can smell the fear from my desk as we speak!

Bill Shaikin @BillShaikin #Dodgers DFA IF Micah Johnson. 3:46pm · 10 Jan 2017 · Twitter Web Client REPLIES 2 RETWEETS 7 link

QUOTE (ChiSox1917 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 04:18 PM) Gross bro More for me in that case

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 04:13 PM) I kinda cooled on him after a poster said in person he's the size of a jack in the box taco. OTOH those are quite delicious.

Dan Hayes @CSNHayes now Heard one reason #WhiteSox didn't yet add Geovany Soto to 40-man was to leave space for a possible trade. Makes sense w/ Quintana rumor. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Dan Hayes @CSNHayes 8s #WhiteSox claimed Willy Garcia off waivers from Pittsburgh and have designated Jason Coats for assignment. link

Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal now If #WhiteSox move Quintana, they likely will sign free-agent SP on one-year deal to help protect youngsters. Could always flip at deadline. common sense, but hey it's relative!

QUOTE (pablo @ Jan 4, 2017 -> 04:56 PM) Couldn't agree more. Yankees hold the trump card on almost all other teams if they are willing to include Torres or Frazier. Right now, they haven't been pushed to that limit yet since Pirates seem unwilling to include Meadows. Until they are forced to go there, they'll act like they are "longshots" for Q while all along keeping tabs on him. BTW long time reader, first time poster. The Q trade discussions have been so fun that I couldn't resist posting. Welcome!

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 4, 2017 -> 04:39 PM) Hey new info Yeah it's nice to have, even though it's kind of what we've known/speculated, nice to see Ken on the prowl.

Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal now Sources: #WhiteSox engaged in daily trade discussions on Quintana. #Pirates, #Astros involved, possibly others. #Yankees appear longshot. Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal now Sources add: #WhiteSox firm on Quintana’s value; also could move him at deadline. NYY seem less willing than others to move top prospects. link

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 12:56 PM) See that's the funny part. Two months ago, this front office should have been fired, and never allowed to work again. People were hoping the owner of this team would die, so that someone else could own the team. The same people who are posting gigantic lists of failed players now somehow believe that this same front office that brought us all of those players can't be questioned unless you have your own fully detailed plan in place to counter it with. The same people that brought us Rollins, Jackson, Latos et al are still the same people in charge. But now I have people telling me that I should not be allowed to question them, otherwise I might hurt somebody's feelings because they won't believe in the rebuild anymore. Literally nothing at the top has changed, but now they can't be questioned, even when fans have unrealistic expectations. Seriously I feel like I have walked into a Scientology convention. I would have to disagree. While yes, the people in place have not changed, their actions have. DFA'ing Danks, Latos, Rollins in 2016 after they we're very ineffective, drafting REAL baseball players recently and not just toolsy project "athletes", reemphasizing the importance of depth and a minor league system to pull from. The philosophy is a complete 180 from previous seasons. 2016, with all of it's terribleness, has IMO, been a big step forward for the White Sox FO since they FINALLY seem to be holding people/themselves accountable. We aren't going to know if this works or doesn't for a few years, and it may not work, but it's insanely refreshing to see that they have and are trying to execute a plan, that in recent years, when done properly, can yield fantastic results in a shorter term than the traditional tear down used to take. To say that you can't see one single thing different about the top management is asinine.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 12:17 PM) Can someone point me toward to Jose Quintana trade thread? I'd like to know where it went as well. I thought it was here but appears I've made a mistake.

This thread is becoming unbearable to read today.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 09:07 AM) And 1 playoff win in 11 years does nothing for me. But hey.

QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 12:56 PM) How the hell did you get this tweet and post it to soxtalk within about 30 seconds of him posting it? LOL Haha I use tweetdeck for work and have some personal accts i follow on there, so as they come through i post when something notable pops up.

Jon Heyman @JonHeyman now Sorry, not hearing of any serious D-Rob to yanks talk Goin on at moment. Lotta interesting chisox rumors lately, some true

Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 1m Checked with few folks and #Yankees are not working on a deal that involves Quintana/Robertson #Whitesox link Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 now #Yankees posture after Chapman/Holliday is can't add significant more $ to payroll unless move someone such as Headley/Gardner

Chuck Garfien @ChuckGarfien Heard there isn't much to it. Was told Yankees haven't been involved with White Sox on Quintana trade in a while. We'll see. Chuck not thinking too much of the rumor. link

For those that care, Kevin Z-Pack @Kevbo_ 20s My guy @BrianBilek_ will join us on @670TheScore at 3 o'clock for the latest on a potential #WhiteSox deal and who might be involved

Brian Bilek @BrianBilek_ now If three way stalls, #WhiteSox and #Pirates still expected to try and get a deal done.

Brian Bilek @BrianBilek_ That is the framework in fluid trade talks. Not saying it's done, just that it's being discussed. 9:49am · 23 Dec 2016 · Twitter for iPhone

Brian Bilek ‏@BrianBilek_ #WhiteSox are in trade talks on a "complex" deal they want to get done by Christmas. Nothing finalized but names & scope of deal are fluid. 7:45 AM - 23 Dec 2016 Brian Bilek ‏@BrianBilek_ 3 way trade would entail Quintana to #Pirates, McCucthen to #Yankees and a package of prospects that's headlined by Glasnow to #WhiteSox. Brian Bilek ‏@BrianBilek_ Outside of Glasnow, #WhiteSox would receive some combo of Mitch Keller, Blake Rutherford, Kevin Newman, Miguel Andujar & Elias Diaz. 7:46 AM - 23 Dec 2016 some raBBit bombs link

Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 16s Buchholz indeed goes to phils Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeyman 47s47 seconds ago Phillies were trying to get buchholz. Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeyman 6m6 minutes ago Hearing buchholz may be traded soon link