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QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 01:53 PM) Rumor is Cubs want Ross and Kimbrel for a Baez-led package Baez, Torres, McKinney?

So a good trade for us is a shortstop who can't hit or defend and is tied for last in WAR this year and a DH. Awesome.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 01:31 PM) Crap defense, not a good baserunner, doesn't walk, has only a little bit of pop. He's one of those guys who has very few methods of being successful: has to just hit for a really high average because the rest of his game doesn't add value. If he were a right fielder, he'd be Avi Garcia. He's not a right fielder, so he has more value, but it's the same thing. Spot-on comparison, considering they're both tied for last in WAR across baseball this season.

QUOTE (QuickJones81 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 01:31 PM) On one hand you have Melky bouncing back, on the other Adam Dunn. You mean 2012 All-Star Adam Dunn?

Like 6 weeks ago or so LaRoche had a .770 OPS for the season, he's been brutal since then.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 01:19 PM) Montas,Danks and a filler? I dont see why they would. Especially with speculation on where Montas is going to end up. Montas is ranked just slightly lower than Hoffman on the MLB top 100 prospect list and Cargo is far less valuable than Tulo.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 12:22 PM) That said, under no scenario, could our farm system be rated as anything other then middle of the pack to slightly worse then middle of the pack. Agreed but "middle of the pack to slightly worse than middle of the pack" is a far cry from "barren". We're not the freaking Tigers.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 01:12 PM) Jerry Crasnick ‏@jcrasnick 2m2 minutes ago A source said chances of Carlos Gonzalez being traded this week are "30-70.'' #Rockies need a better offer to take the plunge. That likely means in order to get him we'd have to trade a prospect I'd be unwilling to give up. Pass.

I just don't understand why anyone would want Castro at this point. He's not coming particularly cheap, he's never been a good defender, and his OPS over the last three years is .665.

I'd be fine with trading a good prospect if we get someone who isn't just a rental. It'd have to upgrade our team beyond this season.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 11:01 AM) Bruce is a good hitter. Not overpaid. Would not just be a gamble for this season but would help the next two. He'd be worth the talent we would give up. This Carlos Gonzalez talk from people, now that has disaster written all over it. I'd be down with Bruce, he's only really had one bad year. Just please don't give up Anderson to get him.

Not sure I'd want Tulo though with that contract and injury history, plus he's about to be on the wrong side of 30.

I'm fine with it as long as we don't do something stupid like trade Adams/Anderson for CarGo/Upton.

We better win these next two games. If we do and the Pirates sweep the Twins then let's f***ing do it.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 10:15 AM) On the other hand, if you're always in the business of buying high (Dunn, Cabrera, LaRoche, Keppinger, Robertson) and not on dips, then you'll be completely screwed if you also have a bottom tier farm system. Look at guys like Contreras, Pods, Hermanson, Dye and AJ before 2005. You can add Jenks to that "questionable character" list as well, with AJ. All of them were risks and had major red flags of one sort or another. Same with Carl Everett, for that matter, and El Duque (pretty big contract for someone who was going to struggle to be the 5th starter). Sometimes, you have to roll the dice when you look at the track record of Puig over a three-year period and his age and then try to analyze what's actually going on....how much of it is physical, mental, comfort level, pressing? You make a good point but you generally don't want to buy low and sell high in the same move, which is what we would be doing by trading Quintana for Puig.

QUOTE (Mike F. @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 10:10 AM) The Cubs would never do that. I wouldn't do it either though.

I was for trading Q for Puig initially, but the more I think about the more I don't like it. Puig has red flags, and his performance this year is a big one.

What's Rock's connection to the White Sox?

I know fans often overrate the value of their own players/prospects, but reading this thread a lot of posters are criminally undervaluing our top prospects (Adams AND Montas for Cargo? Get out).

If EJ still qualified as a prospect where would he fall in the top 100?

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 29, 2015 -> 01:09 AM) Crazy stat. Salvador Perez 2015: 1.3 WAR Geovany Soto 2015 season: 1.0 WAR Actually after yesterday's games Perez is at 1.2 WAR and Soto is now at 1.3 WAR. Soto is now ahead.

Cubs pitching has been noticeably worse since Montero has been out, and I saw a stat that said Hendricks has been the 2nd biggest benefactor of pitch framing this season after Leake. Montero is one of the best framers in the game, I wonder if that has played a factor in the recent pitching slump.

Pass on Upton, he's been completely brutal at the plate the last two months.

QUOTE (Special K @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 08:41 PM) Love every bit of this. Danks in pen sounds great. But getting LaRoche out of the lineup sounds even better. One big remainder though, how on earth do we get Alexei out of the lineup? Can Sanchez at short and Micah try second again? Can we just stomach Gordo at short? I can't watch Alexei anymore. He is the worst hitter maybe ever. Alexei has a .764 OPS after the All-Star Break, he's fine right now. It's LaRoche and Avi that need to get out of the lineup.

Several radio guys after the game today mentioned multiple times that our farm system is "barren" and that we had nothing down there to trade. It might not be super deep or loaded, but we're definitely middle of the pack, right?