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QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:56 PM) Does that not sound like Tulowitzki? Who they just received a first round draft pick for, among others, along with $50 million in salary relief? You think they are going to turn around and dump Cargo to us for nothing now? Tulowitzki's career road OPS is .817, which is still very very good out of the SS position. CarGo's career road OPS is .752, which is mediocre out of RF/LF. It's not really that comparable.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:50 PM) Maybe you didn't just see the Tulo trade? What does that have to do with us and CarGo? His road numbers are uninspiring, he has a bad contract, and he has an injury history. Pass. I certainly wouldn't give up Adams for him.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:43 PM) Micah and Spencer, they pay $15 million. You can't be serious. I don't want to give up one good prospect for him, let alone two.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 11:11 AM) Well you were indeed correct raBBit. I however agree with Dick Allen's points and I was talking about similar things last week. When something goes wrong it's KW's fault. But when it goes right like in the winter meetings it's all Rick Hahn. We really should have almost zero faith in Rick Hahn right now. What he's produced in 3 years hasnt been good. You guys wonder why Kenny said he wanted to get more involved? That would be why. I think he's starting to lose faith. This year has certainly been a mess for the most part, but can you really blame Hahn for 2013/2014? When he took over we had the worst farm system in the game and very few assets on the major league team. You can't expect that to turn around in a such a short time.

How much should we be concerned about Puig's drop in numbers this year? His OPS is only 0.14 points above Eaton's. I wouldn't want to trade Q for him if he's not going to at least be 0.820+

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 11:05 AM) I reported something of the same in the last week without the deal contingencies. Hahn and KW have serious differences in the way they want to operate. The moves weren't all Hahn. The Samardzija trade was a long process that Hahn handled but KW loved Samardzija. I don't have the full picture, but I do know that the Melky Cabrera signing was 100% Kenny Williams and Rick Hahn did not want to spend that money on Melky. Interesting. I would love to know what Hahn's plan without KW would have been for this past offseason.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 10:29 AM) Here's the other point --if you believe they're in it, then Shark still should go to bolster the roster with an additional bat. Don't forget the misery and embarrassment of this offense because of one week. That's my concern, here. Shark shouldn't even be here now, let alone at the deadline. He wont be a part of our future past this season, and if forsaking him for an everyday offensive player meant risking the remainder of this season with Johnson id accept it. I'd trade Shark for an everyday offensive player who can play the rest of the season in a heartbeat, but that seems like an unrealistic return for a two-month rental. More likely is a couple prospects who might help in a year or two, and if we kick ass the next three games I might lean towards keeping Shark. I'd bring up Johnson regardless though to replace Danks, I just wish I had faith in the the front office to do a move like that.

QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 10:48 AM) Why base your whole course of action on a two-game stretch? That's 1.2% of the season. What if the Sox win the next two then lose the next four? What if they lose the next two then win the next four? The Sox have now played about 100 games this year. They should make good decisions/trades for both the short- and long-term health of the club regardless of a ridiculously small sample of two games. Because there's only a few more days to make the decision, and the long-term value of the comp pick vs. what we would get in a trade is unlikely to be a huge gap (unless someone gets desperate and overpays, then by all means make the deal). If we win the next two games we're right in the thick of things, especially if the Pirates beat the Twins both days as well.

With the trade deadline Friday, I don't see why a decision has to be made on Samardzija tonight. If we lose the next two sell him off, if we win the next two only trade him if you get a great deal.

I don't really want to add a bat if it costs us a good prospect. I'm down with not trading Shark if we keep kicking ass in Fenway the next three days due to the comp pick but I don't want to trade away a Montas/Danish/Adams/Micah for a small chance at a play-in game.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 10:02 AM) Well, the Edwin Jackson/Daniel Hudson trade was pretty bad.. Hudson has only had one season where he was healthy and Jackson did well for us that season anyway. It was a wash.

Updated July numbers: Melky: .349/.372/.605 Eaton: .284/.383/.494 Sanchez: .325/.350/.468 Keep hitting guys

I don't want to deal Quintana because I don't trust that Kenny would get the right return for him.

QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 12:02 AM) Maybe we get stoned and acquire Castro. I wouldn't give up Scott Carroll for Castro.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 11:57 PM) They might trade him to us to try and get Anderson now If Hahn trades Anderson for CarGo I will be super pissed, no way he's worth our top prospect.

What the hell? Why are they getting another bat?

Eaton really only had one (very) bad month at the plate. People were jumping all over him through the All-Star break, but since May 1st he's hitting .272/.352/.447 That's better than last year. He's been fine for most of the season.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 10:40 PM) It was ridiculous for people to deem them as failures less than halfway into the first year of either deal. And Eaton's deal was never going to be an albatross anyway. Most we're paying him in any one year is $8 million if you don't count the option years.

That was Axford's 4th blown save in a row. Wow.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 10:42 PM) Just brutal, seems like a possibly season-saving win for them. Cubs bandwagon back in full force, I'm sure. No Chicago sports radio for me tomorrow. Giants (and I guess Dodgers too) just need to keep winning like they are now. Although the Cubs do have a very soft schedule the rest of the way and the Giants' schedule in August is brutal (softens up in September though).

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 10:30 PM) Wow the Cubs suck. That is all. I have seriously bet on the Cubs 4 days in a row now and I'm about to lose my 4th parlay because of these cocksuckers. Well there you go.

If we're trading Quintana, Puig or bust.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 09:39 PM) Playing well against teams not playing as well vs playing 2 good teams out of all star break and going 1-5 is a great way tell if you can compete. Could have easily been 3-3, and all the teams we're competing with for that 2nd wildcard are very mediocre.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 10:23 PM) I'm going to guess the Cubs trade for Papelbon in the next few days. Holy s*** 8-7 Rockies what the hell happened?

Win at least 2 of the next 3 and if the Pirates take the series against the Twins suddenly you have a race. Hell bring up Johnson anyway and banish Danks to the pen.