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QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 29, 2012 -> 02:06 PM) Yeah, Weber will be advising Leonard. He's gone. I wonder if Groce will take away Orris' scholi. He hasn't exactly molded into a Big Ten player from what I've read. Weber took a Self recruits scholi, so its not unprecedented. No he didn't. Carter, Randle and McBride were the three signed recruits when Weber took over for Self. All three had scholarships and played for Illinois.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Mar 28, 2012 -> 10:52 PM) So apparently Groce was the lead recruiter on Oden, Buford, Cook, and Conley? Can someone verify this? And obviously he brought DJ Cooper into Ohio. I know he was for Oden and Conley. Not sure on the others. Groce is a known recruiter and while not the home run hire I was hoping for I am on board. He just has to sell Abrams on staying and the rest of the players will fall in line. Very interested to see the staff he puts together as it has to have someone from Chicago.

Absolutely brutal officiating in the OSU v. Syracuse game.

Epic choke job by Florida.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Mar 17, 2012 -> 07:27 PM) Sweet non call on the push in the back That was ridiculous. Ezeli definitely would have had that rebound. That absolutely has to be called.

Dixon just fouled the crap out of the Norfolk St. player on that steal.

Missouri should be thanking the refs right now. Every call going against Norfolk St.

QUOTE (flippedoutpunk @ Mar 15, 2012 -> 04:48 PM) are there multiple endings based on how you played the game? and if so are they all bad?

Warning do not watch the below video if you don't want to see major Mass Effect 3 spoilers but this video basically sums up most (but not all) of the reasons that the Mass Effect 3 ending is f***ing garbage and ruins all 3 games.

QUOTE (flippedoutpunk @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 12:20 PM) that doesn't sound very good, I'm hoping bioware didn't rape Shepherd the way that george lucas and steven spielberg raped indiana jones. Much worse IMO. Bad enough that I won't buy another EA or Bioware game unless the endings (if you can call those endings) are fixed. The ending was bad enough that all 3 games are currently ruined for me.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 02:32 PM) The game was great up until the ending which was f***ing terrible on several levels. Seriously, I'm going to respond to myself because I'm still pissed about this. Bioware can go f*** themselves. Worst ending ever.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Mar 8, 2012 -> 01:36 AM) Mass Effect 3 is hot sex. The game was great up until the ending which was f***ing terrible on several levels.

What a horrendous call just now in the Iowa-Northwestern game. Shurna trips over his own two feet and they call a foul on Iowa fouling McCabe out of the game.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Feb 23, 2012 -> 10:16 PM) Rumor is Ryan is telling recruits they are going to play more fast paced in the future, this year Wisconsin has tried to fast break considerably more. Wisconsin is still the slowest paced team in the country. They aren't running more and Ryan is a liar (not that all coaches don't lie in recruiting) if he is telling recruits that.

QUOTE (Brian @ Feb 21, 2012 -> 07:57 PM) I feel confident in saying that I play with 20-22 year old guys at the club that are better than Maniscalco. Playing on one leg. I actually feel bad for him that Weber keeps playing him when he has no chance to succeed.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 06:40 PM) SIU sets another futility record, tying the program mark for losses in a season with 20. All of you b****ing about Bruce should just glance to the program 3 hours south to see how bad things can really get. This is pretty much as bad as it can get for Illinois. You have to suck horribly as a coach to miss the tourney 3 times in 6 years at Illinois.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 06:32 PM) What a pathetic effort by these players. f*** all of them, even Leonard. Good riddance. f*** their garbage ass coach.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 06:12 PM) So, Illinois' give-a-f*** isn't real high right now. I'm not surprised. Like I had been saying, Weber should have been fired after Wednesday. Players have quit on him.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 16, 2012 -> 12:40 PM) And the thing is with basketball, it's you like need an entire class of 5-stars. if you can just get one or two outstanding players, that already makes your team so much better And the new coach won't be coming into a team devoid of talent either. James and Hill will stay committed if you hire a competent coach, you have 3 freshmen that have showed flashes this year and Bertrand still has two years left. If Paul doesn't go pro you have the talent to be good (not great but good) right away. If Leonard stays and the team is actually coached properly they could be top 15 right off the bat. This isn't an Indiana rebuilding job.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Feb 16, 2012 -> 11:33 AM) I think the Gottfried thing is an abnormality. Recruiting isn't an easy fix. It's relationship building, which takes time. I think it's a foregone conclusion that Jerrance Howard is also out, though maybe if they throw some money his way he'll stay. He's the key guy in this. He can bridge the gap between Weber and the new coach. Sean Miller recruited extremely well right off the bat at Arizona, Self's second class at Illinois was fantastic, Crean's second class at Indiana was very good, Matta's second class had Oden, Conley, Cook. Hell, Zook recruited really well right off the bat for Illinois and that was with what was a garbage football program. You are drastically overstating how difficult it is to fix recruiting. If you are a good recruiter you will be successful at it right away.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Feb 16, 2012 -> 09:57 AM) Agreed. Let McClain show is coaching expertise (none). In all seriousness though, the whole thing is just sad. The guy never had a chance with the fan base. No one wanted him, even when he succeeded beyond what Kruger and Self were able to do (the whole line about Self's recruits is bulls***. He coached that team up from borderline good to great). He probably should have been fired a few seasons ago to save the embarrassment both of him and the program. Or at the very least they should have told him take that job at Oklahoma last year, or wherever else he got a job offer (wasn't Oregon one a few seasons back?). Losing to teams like Penn State and Northwestern year in and year out is just not acceptable. The fact that he's been on the hotseat for a few years - you just can't coach that way, as he admitted last night. Too much pressure because every loss gets you that much closer to losing all support. So instead of losing early to win later, he wanted to do everything he could to win in the present. And you could see that with his refusal to play younger guys because they make mistakes, so instead he plays guys like Sam who won't turn the ball over, but probably won't be good enough to win either. He needs a fresh start, as does the program itself. I still see a gigantic problem with expectations though. All those highly ranked recruits the next few years? Most are Weber guys, including any chance they had with Parker (who according to Klee, is still very interested in Illinois). So the program is back to being stuck in a recruiting rut, no matter who they bring in. When the new coach fails to land big recruits in his first season or two, get ready for the same boo birds that were all over Weber for not being able to land anyone. f***ing sucks, the whole thing. It is beyond absurd to suggest that there will be a recruiting rut regardless of who they bring in. I can't see a guy like Shaka Smart not being successful as a recruiter. And if a guy can recruit he will be successful at it right away (Mark Gottfried just brought in a monster class for 2012 right off the bat at NC St. for f***s sake). Also, there is a very good chance that Jalen James and Malcolm Hill stay committed if you hire the right coach because both of those guys just really like Illinois and want to play for Illinois (James in particular).

QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 16, 2012 -> 12:12 AM) Weber is on a roll right now with just pathetic comments. He threw the entire team under the bus tonight. Just a despicable postgame press conference. This is the main reason he should be fired tomorrow and not after the season. He is a beaten man. Just end it now, let the assistants take over and maybe they actually play the freshmen more, the players play loose, make the NCAA tourney and maybe even win a game or two.

QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 15, 2012 -> 10:26 PM) Abrams playing a hell of a game for Illinois He is a lot like Chester Frazier just with a lot more offensive ability. He needs to really get in the gym and work on his jumper but he can get to the rim and finish and is a bulldog on D. Love that kid.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 15, 2012 -> 11:51 PM) Is the key for the next Illini coach recruiting Chicago? Will that be the key for Shaka returning the Illini to greatness? Will the Public League coaches embrace Shaka? It seems sometimes the Illini coach relationships with Public League talent is not good. And other area talent. Wouldn't NW's Sobelewski of Benet and Boatright of Aurora look good in Illini colors? Unless Illinois was going to cheat, they weren't going to land Boatright.

QUOTE (Boogua @ Feb 15, 2012 -> 10:52 PM) So I was curious as to how Maniscalco has actually done (numbers wise). Since the weak part of the schedule ended (beginning with the Gonzaga game), he is 18 for 79 for the field (22.7%) in 15 games. I knew it was bad, but Jesus... I guess Weber had him out there for his defense though. To be fair to Maniscalco, he re-injured the ankle in the St. Bonaventure game and has been playing (incredibly poorly) on one leg since. It isn't his fault that Weber keeps playing him when he has no chance to succeed. Also, if anyone heard Weber's press conference after the game today he already knows he is being fired. I actually wish Thomas would just do it now and appoint an assistant just to get it done and to let the players play loose down the stretch. Also, Weber also basically confirmed that he has been coaching not to lose the last few years and that the pressure of the job got to him.