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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 6, 2012 -> 10:00 PM) Can we re-hire Ron Zook? It can't be worse. At least Beckman actually has a recruiting class with talent (well right now anyways, who knows if those kids stay committed with the way this season is going). Even being generous Zook basically recruited only 2 good offensive players in his last 4 recruiting classes.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Oct 6, 2012 -> 06:06 PM) Stupid because we would owe a lot of money. He's clearly in over his head. Sure looks that way but the only thing I can say in his defense is that there isn't a coach in the country that could make this offense competent. Zook's recruiting his last 3 years was absolutely atrocious, especially on offense and we we are going to pay the price for that. This is exactly why a competent AD fires Zook in 2009 after he goes 3-9 with a bunch of NFL talent and then the next coach would have had an opportunity to build momentum by having winning teams the next few years. But instead we hold on to an incompetent coach for two extra years and while those seasons were respectable we put ourselves in a position where Beckman's staff has no talent on offense and very little young talent on defense.

Well Illinois almost definitely loses anyways but that game was materially changed by the referees.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Oct 6, 2012 -> 04:39 PM) Bulls*** 3 points for Wisconsin. How does the ruling stand. Brutal. And a poor 15 yard penalty The ref involved in that call is either so incompetent that he should be fired on the spot or he is on the take.

And that is 3 tainted points for Wisconsin. Illinois clearly forced a turnover there. Refs at all levels and in all sports are so unbelievably bad.

Wow, Illinois just took one up the ass from the refs. This is a f***ing joke. That was a clear fumble and recovery by Illinois.

QUOTE (SexiAlexei @ Oct 5, 2012 -> 07:47 PM) No, if you want a full series, win the division. So why should Detroit benefit from being in a crappy division and winning less games than either of the teams playing tonight?

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Oct 5, 2012 -> 06:59 PM) He was under it. By the book its the right call. He was still drifting back on that and in no way should that have been called an infield fly.

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 5, 2012 -> 03:49 PM) He's also be close to home, and Izzo has a good history with Chicago recruits. Izzo has had very few players from Chicago. The only one I can really think of is Shannon Brown and he didn't have near the career he was expected to coming out of high school as the #3 player in the country.

So can the Bears finally acknowledge that Kellen Davis is garbage and acquire a real TE this offseason?

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Oct 1, 2012 -> 04:24 PM) I wouldn't write off the Thunder this year, though if Harden goes somewhere else, yeah. The Thunder actually match up pretty well with the Lakers still. Perkins is worthless against teams like Miami but he still plays good low post defense and has given Dwight some trouble in the past. Add in the fact that the Lakers are very slow defensively on the perimeter and you have a pretty good matchup for the Thunder. Nash guarding Harden or Westbrook will be laughable.

Steve Stricker sucks.

QUOTE (dasox24 @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 02:08 PM) I'm shocked at how bad Illinois looks. I don't think their talent level is any less than Penn St. I just think they were completely out-coached. That doesn't bode well for Beckman. The talent level on offense is non-existent. Scheelhaase is a bad QB, our offensive line is really bad and banged up, and the receivers are below average. The offense was always going to be bad but there is no excuse for the defense to look this awful.

Illinois is a terrible combination of a bad defensive coaching staff and no talent on offense thanks to Zook's recruiting being a joke his last few years at Illinois. Zook needed to be fired but Beckman is looking like a terrible hire. He is no different than Zook as a coach. I am sick of having "football guys" as our coach. Find someone with an actual brain to be the coach. At some point ADs will realize that the coaches that win the most tend to also be the most intelligent. They aren't just rah rah guys like Zook and Beckman.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 03:17 PM) Groce will get his guys, give it time. I already have a ton of confidence in his recruiting. Getting Kendrick Nunn was a huge get for the program. 2nd best player in the state for the 2013 class, plus his dad is well connected in Chicago. Throw in the Simeon connection and that was a big recruit for the program. Plus while he may not land any of them, the fact that he was able to make the top 2 for Jackson, top 3 for Tyler Ennis and top 3 for Xavier Rathan-Mayes who are all top 30 recruits despite only being on the job since April is really impressive.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 12:14 PM) I keep thinking of Goodell as Officer Barbrady: Nothing to see here, the correct call was made. Yep. The NFL was never going to admit that call was incorrect even though everyone knows it was. Also, the fact that they can actually use replay to confirm that call just makes the replacement refs look even worse. It is literally impossible to watch a replay of that play and think there was simultaneous possession.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 09:49 AM) https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid...user=1097780905 Who is Ryan Sudol? Because whoever he is has no idea what the f*** he is talking about.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Sep 24, 2012 -> 11:43 PM) There's an enormous amount of observational bias in this as well. We know the refs are replacements, thus missed calls seem that much more obvious. What is most likely true is that we fail to realize how many calls the normal refs miss, and also tend to overreact/over estimate the number that the replacements are making That said, there is still an obvious difference The real refs actually know the NFL rules and are used to calling NFL games so while they may miss a hold or get a pass interference call wrong you don't see the constant blatantly missed calls that are impacting games right now.

QUOTE (zenryan @ Sep 24, 2012 -> 11:22 PM) yeah, when its actually a tie You also need both players to have possession. Golden Tate never even comes close to having possession of that ball.

QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 24, 2012 -> 11:14 PM) Looking at it again, Tate's hand was on that ball virtually the entire time. He had no possession of that. Not even close. One of his arms was basically never touching the ball and Jennings had both hands on it with the ball pinned to his chest.

QUOTE (zenryan @ Sep 24, 2012 -> 11:05 PM) lost in all this is the GB not trying to knock the ball down. Knock it down and the game is over. Why go for the INT there? Meh. He intercepted the ball. It isn't his fault the refs made one of the worst calls in the history of sports and while knocking the ball down is common knowledge there have been a decent amount of hail marys completed off of batted balls the last couple of years between college and the NFL.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Sep 24, 2012 -> 11:02 PM) I hate that instant replay is "indisputable evidence." We're at the point with technology where the looks you get on replay, 99% of the time are better than what an official saw at game speed, from sometimes a s***ty angle. Unless you literally can't see anything, you should be able to review it and it shouldn't matter what the call on the field was. We've all seen calls where we're 90% sure of what happened but since it was ruled X on the field, it stays as X. That play, on replay, is an interception. But since it was ruled TD on the field, it stands. It's just stupid. I really wish they'd change the standard of proof for replay. There's no reason not to at this point. I don't think that was an indisputable evidence issue. It sounds like if the refs rule there is simultaneous possession it is not reviewable even though there was clearly no simultaneous possession on that play.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 24, 2012 -> 10:54 PM) Screw that, I feel perfectly fine about the Bears being a game up. Especially because this could be the end of replacement refs. I'm happy the Bears are game up on the Packers and I won't care at the end of the year if that gives us a playoff spot but I hate seeing the game turned into a joke the way that was.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 24, 2012 -> 10:52 PM) I feel bad for people that football is their favorite sport. What a disgrace (and this is coming from a Bears fan). Yep. Hard to even feel great about the Bears getting up a game on the Packers after that.

This is a disgrace. You now officially have refs incorrectly deciding a game.