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Also, wasn't a catch by Teo. The ball hit the ground and he didn't maintain control.

Notre Dame just got away with the most obvious pass interference ever on Teo's maybe interception.

So just saw a report that Lattimore broke his femur and tore all 4 ligaments in his knee. Just awful.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Oct 27, 2012 -> 04:34 PM) I should have been more specific, yeah, I meant on defense. Because obviously the last 6 games last year where we averaged 7 points a game didn't leave much to be expected. It's not quite as depressing to watch the offense struggle (though there have been some terrible play calls), but the defense makes no sense. Never thought we'd get absolutely blown out in some of these games. Bailey SOS. Beckman absolutely has to hold his recruiting class together or this program is heading back to the end of the Turner era/beginning of Zook era depths. Should be fun. I hope Ron Guenther burns in hell.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Oct 27, 2012 -> 04:28 PM) No, I know the recruiting classes were bad, and he doesn't have a lot to work with. But he's not doing a good job with the little we have, or showing signs of football intelligence, for lack of a better term. There was a lot of returning "talent" from last year's team. Zero reason they should be this bad, or this stupid. Also, you said it's going to be a dumpster fire soon? I'd say we're there now... Yes, Zook should have been gone after 2009, would have saved this before the fall go to ground level. I think Beckman is doing a terrible job but there is zero returning talent on offense. The offense was absolutely abysmal last year and the only two legitimate players from that team are in the NFL. I thought this team could get to 6-6 or 7-6 on the strength of the defense like last year but only a handful of the guys on the offense are legitimate Big 10 players. No excuse for the defense to be this bad.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Oct 27, 2012 -> 04:03 PM) Especially since no one could pass block. Snap it, have a guy immediately on you, run around, either chuck it or get caught for one of the 7 sacks. Repeat. Every pass play was a fire drill. I'd love to say we've reached rock bottom, but I don't know if that's the case. We just lost to Indiana. At home. On homecoming. After a bye week. To a team that has won 6 road games in 17 years and hasn't won since Nov 2010 in the BT. But let's keep hitting guys out of bounds and fumbling. Good times. Zook also recruited absolutely no talent in the 2010, 2011 and 2012 classes. Seriously go pull up the commitments from those classes and the only guy who is an a very good Big 10 player is Brown. The RBs from last years class are ok but they aren't difference makers and I've heard good things about Caldwell and Davis but they haven't shown anything on the field. It is obviously early with the 2012 class but all of the guys actually getting playing time form that class are guys Beckman brought in late. Zook's recruiting in that class was hilariously bad before he got fired. The program is going to be a dumpster fire soon. It really is too bad Zook wasn't fired in 2009 like he should have been.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Oct 27, 2012 -> 02:22 PM) Tim Beckman may be the worst hire in the Big Ten in 30 years....................2 weeks to prepare and still nothing new today FN horrid! I also loved that they were running the ball on Indiana easily all day but they consistently dropped back to throw on 2nd and shorts and either threw incompletions or lost yards and then when they get the ball back down 7 in the 4th quarter they drop back to throw three straight times? It takes work to do a worse job coaching on gameday than Zook but this staff manages to do it.

QUOTE (farmteam @ Oct 27, 2012 -> 10:36 AM) I had a dream the other night that Illinois won pretty easily. I actually think Indiana is the slightly better team, but that might be my bias. Doesn't really matter, since both teams are terrible. Well Illinois is clearly the more physically gifted team and is dominating the game except for their numerous expected stupid decisions and plays.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 21, 2012 -> 09:39 PM) I know Beckman has been nothing short of a disaster this season, but can anyone explain to me why it was so outrageous that he used dip on the sideline? Against NCAA rules.

So any chance the guy in my league with both Robert Griffin and Peyton Manning accepts a trade where he gets Rivers/Cutler (his choice), Donald Brown and Vic Ballard (both so he gets Indy's starter no matter what), and Maclin/Bowe (his choice). This is a 14 team league with little depth and he is currently starting Robert Meachem at flex and Ronnie Brown at RB2. So while Maclin and Bowe are not amazing they are huge upgrades for him and sadly the Brown/Ballard combo would also be a big upgrade. Would leave me with a team of Manning, Peterson, Leshoure, Welker, Megatron, Bowe/Maclin, and Heath Miller.

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Oct 15, 2012 -> 12:04 PM) I still think the Bench will be awesome, but I said that it'll be awesome when D.Rose comes back. In Game 3, Deng and Rip didn't even play 1 minute. When D.Rose comes back, our bench will have 3 starting caliber players on it...Kirk/Deng/Taj with possibly a 4th being Nasty Naz. How is that not awesome? ONE OF DA BEST BENCHES IN DA LEAGUE BRO Ok, now you are just trolling. Nazr Mohammed as a starting caliber player? One of the dumbest things ever posted in this thread and that is saying something. Also, I would like to know who is starting for Deng that allows you to add him to the bench and why Hinrich wasn't good enough to start for a "terrible" Hawks team but is a starting caliber player.

QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Oct 15, 2012 -> 11:37 AM) I see Kirk as a Kyle Orton(yes I compared him to a QB) type, someone who will manage the game just enough to give us the chance to win. Not a great player or a game changer but good enough to get the Bulls by until Rose returns. I don't think a career high in assists (which would only be 7, what I'm calling for) would be an unrealistic average for the year... A 31 year old on the decline averaging a career high an assists when he is going to play less minutes per game than he did early in his career is by definition unrealistic.

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Oct 15, 2012 -> 11:01 AM) Being injured and on terrible teams for 2 years may have something to do with that. He's a smarter and better PG now than when he was last in a Bulls uniform. And Thibs is gonna ride him hard. So in the two years where he was injured and on terrible teams he became a better point guard than when he was last in a Bulls uniform? Based upon what exactly?

Another unbelievably awful call goes against the Yankees. Add f***ing instant replay. It is inexcusable to allow umps to continue to blow play that aren't even close.

For all the talk about A-Rod (and he has been awful and benching him would be deserved) the guy who really needs to take a seat is Swisher. Gardner makes the two plays he missed easily and he can't do any worse at the plate.

Nick Swisher sucks and Jeter's lack of range probably ends up hurting the Yankees here.

RAUL f***ING IBANEZ!! Suck it Valverde

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Oct 13, 2012 -> 08:00 PM) Refs in the ND-Stanford game were PAC-12 officials. Whining about the refs is for losers. Yeah, when the refs decide a game like they did for Notre Dame it is isn't whining to point out that they were a joke.

Yankees get screwed by the umps. Cano clearly safe at first that would have scored one and the Yanks would have had the bases loaded with 2 outs still. I am so sick of terrible umping/reffing etc. in sports lately. Also, that really needs to be reviewable. No reason why we should have to live with umps getting that type of call wrong.

QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 13, 2012 -> 06:14 PM) Still thought it was pretty clear Taylor was in on 2nd and goal. He scored on second and 4th down.

That is clearly a touchdown. LOFL at that not being overturned. Refs at all levels are an absolute joke.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 11:25 PM) HOW CAN YOU NOT BE ENTERTAINED BY THIS CARDINALS TEAM?! ANSWER ME That's one of the best comeback's ever. E-V-E-R. I'm bummed the A's and O's didnt make it too, s*** I wanted to see the Reds.... but come on, the Cardinals are just awesome to watch. Cardinals fans are insufferable. It really is the only reason I was hoping they wouldn't win.

Pathetic effort by Drew Storen tonight. Terrible pitching with 2 strikes and you simply can't walk two batters in the 9th inning with a 2 run lead.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 11, 2012 -> 12:10 PM) I was referring specifically to game 5. And at the end of game 6 when they played the clock out with 2 1/2 minutes left, that was pretty ugly too Lebron has made his amends in my eyes. I thought he was amazing last season They didn't play the clock out with 2 1/2 minutes left. They basically let the clock run out in the last minute when they were down by 9. I would prefer playing that one out to try to get a Reggie Miller against the Knicks or T-Mac against the Spurs type miracle but the narrative that he quit on his team in that game is absurd.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 11, 2012 -> 11:57 AM) Wade flops, LeBron doesn't. LeBron flops but no more than any other player. Also, the LeBron "quit on his team" narrative is ridiculously overblown. You can maybe make the case in game 5 but that game was just an absolute beat down by the Celtics, the entire Cavs team was brutal. He didn't play well but in game 6 he grabbed 19 rebounds had 10 assists and scored 27 points. He also held Paul Pierce to 13 points on 4-13 shooting. You don't put up those types of numbers, particularly the rebounds, if you have quit.