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QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 04:02 PM) Guy just remember even if we don't get Lebron, the following two lineups are still probably a top 3-4 seed in the East. Rose Allen Deng Boozer Noah Rose Reddick Deng Boozer Noah. So like I said earlier we would basically be the Atlanta Hawks. A solid team that makes the playoffs and 2nd round but with no chance to win a title. Not a great position to be in.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 03:53 PM) I've been wanting Boozer since last off-season. But after all this, I didn't want him THAT much... I don't like Boozer and I really don't like him for that much money, but he is a good piece if you have Noah, LeBron and Rose next to him. If you don't get LeBron I will despise even looking at Boozer though.

This contract is going to be laughably bad by the end of the deal. Hopefully they land Lebron.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 01:13 PM) I know. And 2 seasons ago he put up stats very similar to what Chris did this season. It's not too big of a stretch to think he can get back to those numbers as a member of the Bulls. Yeah, I realized that after I re-read your post.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 01:09 PM) Al Jefferson is someone I'd be all about if that's a realisitic possibility. Dude pretty much was Chris Bosh a few seasons ago. He is only 1 year younger than Bosh. I would love to get Jefferson, I just don't see how the Bulls have the pieces to make a deal work. Edit: I think I misinterpreted the point you were making.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 01:00 PM) I meant to say, aren't completely screwed. It definitely isn't pretty and our rebuilding will last longer. The team will have to be very creative and find another way to eventually find a 2nd guy. Basically, now, they need to hope Rose is the guy and than you can find the 2nd fiddle guy, hopefully a little easier. Maybe they can pull a Horford out of Atlanta in time or work some huge deal with the Clippers for Blake Griffin? I have no idea, just throwing s*** at a wall but quite frankly that is what the Bulls will need to do after this. Short term they can go Lee or Boozer + Allen and be alright. I happen to actually think Reddick would be a great fit in Chicago, especially next to LBJ. I'd be happy with LBJ/Reddick/Haywood. We'd have a deep team with enough star power and nice balance, imo. If you get LeBron you are automatically a contender just by pairing him with Rose and Noah. LeBron took a bunch of garbage to the NBA finals a few years ago. He certainly is capable of winning a title with Rose as his #2. The problem is that without LeBron, the Bulls basically have no hope of winning a championship for at least the next 5 years and probably longer unless they luck into a superstar in the draft again or a team decides to give them a star for nothing in return like Memphis giving the Lakers Gasol.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 12:34 PM) considering a lot of us were arguing that trading noah for bosh would be a bad idea, this isn't true. What exactly was the context of this argument because Bosh is so vastly superior to Noah as a player that it would be ludicrous not to trade Noah for Bosh if that is the only way you could get him.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 12:19 PM) What will be funny is when the Wade, Lebron, Bosh team doesnt win any Championships. They may all be great, but its not the best line up construction. Lebron/Wade should be looking for a team with a great pg and a great defensive center. I also wonder how they are going to find enough shots to appease them all. The Bulls were the perfect situation, whatever they did/didnt do, cost them. People asked the same questions about shots when the Celtics got Allen and Garnett, if the three of them are going to willingly play on the same team I'm guessing they will be fine giving up some shots to win championships. As for not having a great PG or great defensive C, the Chicago Bulls won their last 3 titles with Ron Harper as their PG and Longley as their C. Solid players no doubt but hardly great. Of course I don't think Wade and LeBron will be quite as good of a duo as Pippen and Jordan but it is close.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 12:04 PM) And that's the worry in those 2nd round matchups in the playoffs he'd be up against the likes of KG, Howard a little bit etc. But TT can probably improve Boozer's overall defense a little by playing him next to Noah. The Celtics had Perkins for instance who's an excellent post defender. Maybe, but the Celtics had at the minimum solid defenders at every position. Perkins helps make the Celtics a great defensive team but it isn't like KG, Pierce, Allen and Rondo needed Perkins to turn them into competent defenders.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 12:02 PM) Wouldn't Noah be taking over those duties though? He still has to guard someone and Boozer can't move his feet laterally worth a damn so if you put him on someone with any sort of perimeter game he is going to get torched. Against the Lakers if Odom was in the game he got taken off the dribble constantly and when he was guarding Bynum or Gasol he got dominated in the post. Okur generally drew the opposing teams C with Boozer guarding the PF and he still couldn't guard anyone.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 11:57 AM) It depends a lot on whether TT wants a pick and roll type of offense, or whether he wants more of a low post guy to go through with outside shooters on the perimeter. I think you make a good argument for Lee over Boozer though, but you never know how Lee is going to play in a different system, which is the risk. Boozer has been running the pick and roll as much as any big man in the NBA the last few years so Boozer could play in either system with ease. My problem with Boozer is that he is one of the worst low post defenders I've seen and he has a really hard time finishing against big men with length. He missed some incredibly easy shots against the Lakers because of his lack of length and athleticism. He has also missed 30+ games 3 of the last 6 years and he is turning 29 so he will almost certainly be on a major decline by the end of the contract he signs.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 11:49 AM) Seriously, with the overreactions. The Bulls were the 5th seed and a possible 50 win team last year before Noah and Rose got banged up towards the end of the season. If you add Boozer alone, we're a 50 win team. With no real chance to win an NBA title though. How would that roster really be a whole lot different than say the Atlanta Hawks in terms of talent?

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 7, 2010 -> 11:41 AM) AdamZagoria "I'm a winner. Dwyane's a winner and we're gonna bring winning to Miami." -- CBosh Chris, you are f***ing over 100 games under .500 on your career. I'm actually pretty glad we didn't get this turd. Give me Boozer and a solid SG and we'll see what happens. Yeah this isn't sour grapes at all. Bosh isn't a superstar but he is still a top 10 player in the NBA and is clearly a vastly superior player to Boozer. Hell ,Kobe was 10 games under .500 in the three years between Shaq leaving LA and Gasol arriving in LA.

f***!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 2, 2010 -> 02:47 PM) Apparently he could officially be on his way to Iowa State very soon. The Mayor isn't f***ing around. Yeah only to be kicked out of school within months for doing something else ridiculously stupid.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 29, 2010 -> 10:28 AM) Yeah, maybe my expectations were high, and thus it didn't live up to them... The twist was cool, but I still felt like it needed a little extra something... I thought the twist was among the most ridiculous things I have ever seen in a movie and the plot was laughable.

Ian Desmond sucks

Ridiculous that you give Marmol that 2-0 pitch with his control problems completely changed the at bat.

Worst tag attempt ever.

QUOTE (SuperSteve @ Jun 26, 2010 -> 11:08 AM) I am genuinely afraid his act will get old if he comes here. He can only become more and more of a diva than he is now if he wins a few titles. I'm torn, the player versus the person. I would prefer he would show us he is a winner than showing us he wants to be treated like a seventeen year old girl on prom night (I know the what would I do response, I would not even mess with all this, collude with Bosh and Wade and go be the best player on the best team). LeBron has already taken a garbage supporting cast to an NBA finals single handed. The guy can win and has won, if he had Kobe's supporting cast he would have won at least the last two titles easily.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 25, 2010 -> 04:25 PM) But I do have to say, if we do get Bosh and LeBron, Deng is almost dead weight . I'd rather have Hinrich. Not really, you just play James at the SG position. It isn't like Hinrich is a lights out shooter who really stretches out the floor that would be a perfect fit for those guys.

LOL at Zambrano. What a clusterf*** that situation has been for the Cubs this year.

Peavy is filthy, nice to finally have all the starters pitching the way they were expected to coming into the year.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 25, 2010 -> 03:16 PM) Deng is a bum. No amount of PER will convince me otherwise. My EYES tell me what's up. Yep, 18 pts and 7 boards while being a more efficient scorer than Hinrich and he is the bum. Way to back up your argument though.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 25, 2010 -> 02:46 PM) You are so clueless. Deng might be more talented, but Kirk brings more depth to the team and more value in terms of production on the court, reliability, and overall game. Their value is close, but Kirk has more value, and that's why the Bulls were able to find a taker for him and not for Deng. On what planet does Hinrich give more production on the court than Deng? They were able to find a taker for him because he is making less money and is signed for less years. Luol Deng PER last year was 16.1 (league average is 15) Hinrich's was 11.6, TS% was .531 Hinrich's was .501, Deng has higher rebounding rates, a lower turnover percentage and a higher usage rate than Hinrich. He has also had a higher number of win shares each of the last 4 years. The only area where Hinrich trumps Deng is in assist rate. You can look at basically any statistical analysis or just watch the Bulls play and it is clear Deng is the better player. http://www.82games.com/0910/0910CHI.HTM