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QUOTE(thedoctor @ Feb 23, 2008 -> 11:03 PM) it's really not all that difficult to get a drinking "ticket" at the u of i. I had a friend get one 3 straight weekends.

QUOTE(thedoctor @ Feb 23, 2008 -> 09:39 AM) richmond kicked off waukegan team not a good year for richmond. kid obviously has some growing up to do. Absolutely. Luckily he is still 2 years away from playing in college.

Not that I think he is reliable, but Skip Bayless says he has a good source that the blacked out name in the NCAA report on IU was Eric Gordon.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Feb 21, 2008 -> 11:39 PM) Wouldn't go that far. Most of the top 25 recruits are represented. It isn't but there always seems to be a UNC or Duke recruit who really doesn't deserve to bet there.

Brian Carlwell has left Illinois' basketball team and will seek a transfer. Really too bad what has happened to him. He had a ton of potential coming out of HS but between the accident and the injuries this year he has actually regressed. I hope he does well somewhere else.

QUOTE(fathom @ Feb 17, 2008 -> 10:55 PM) His coach most definitely didn't stick him in the middle. He was camped out on the wing behind the 3 point line the entire night. Well than that is a change from what he has been doing all season long. Every time I had seen him play he was stuck down low and that was a major cause of the Richmonds displeasure with Waukegan.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Feb 17, 2008 -> 08:59 PM) Why do you think he's good? That's not meant to be taken as snark -- I'd like to know why he's so highly regarded. I've read junk on the internet saying that he doesn't have much offensive skill at all. On various scout.com boards I've read: no range, no post moves, below average handle, mostly scores on height and athleticism close to basket. I haven't seen him play, I don't know if that's anywhere close to the truth or not. I'm just wondering if his ranking is based on some athleticism and being tall at a young age. Except he actually handles the ball well and shot the ball well over the summer. His coach sticks him in the post and doesn't let him play a whole lot on the perimeter. Watching him play in HS is a terrible way of evaluating his skill when he basically is forced to play center. I actually remember people saying the same stuff about LeBron in HS (and no I am not saying Richmond is at that level).

QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Feb 16, 2008 -> 10:12 PM) I didn't hear anyone chanting for Sampson. They were chating DJ White at the end. It admittedly could be wrong, I turned it off but saw on other boards that they were chanting Kelvin Sampson.

Great effort for IU tonight without White for most of the game. IU fans chanting for their cheating coach though, kind of sad.

Mike Bibby traded to Atlanta

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Feb 15, 2008 -> 01:09 AM) Well yes, but in the eyes of the NCAA they did nothing wrong. People should lose their jobs over this, but from the NCAA's perspective the university didn't break any rules. Sorry but that is simply not true. If that is the case than no schools ever do anything wrong and only the coaches should be punished.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Feb 14, 2008 -> 05:42 PM) Looks like it is official. Link?

QUOTE(Jenksismyb**** @ Feb 14, 2008 -> 05:13 PM) You can't get out of the LOI without sitting out a year unless the school releases you. Oklahoma released those kids as they didn't feel it was right to force them to still come play or sit out a year (good decision) when the coach bailed on them. If Ebanks tries he'll have to get IU's permission, which they may or may not give. The NCAA can and likely would give Ebanks an exception if Sampson is fired and IU is on probation.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Feb 14, 2008 -> 02:08 PM) It's starting to happen a bit more regularly. Off the top of my head, when Sampson left Oklahoma all of those guys got immediate releases (I know Scottie Reynolds and Damien James, think there was at least one more), and I believe that Alex Legion had signed at Michigan before going to Kentucky. Those were cases where a coach left the school. I believe Palehose is referring to the ISU football recruit where that is not at issue.

QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Feb 14, 2008 -> 09:18 AM) I don't either. I think now is a time IU could go with a good solid coach that doesn't have to be a big name. On a separate note: Am I in never, never land thinking that if IU fires Sampson that the penalties won't be that bad or possibly not more than a loss of a scholarship or two with probation? Here is my thinking. It is obvious that Sampson and his staff were the problem here. The NCAA report stated that they believe Sampson lied to IU investigators as well as the NCAA. IU has a clean history with no major violations in the past 45+ years. Sampson made mistakes and unfortunately they were the same kind of mistakes he previously made. His actions in essence tell you that he chose to be selective in how he was going to follow the sanctions placed upon him. Now if he didn't fully understand them, then he is stupid or IU did a terrible job covering them. My guess is that doesn't even apply. So I am wondering, if IU fires Sampson, self-imposes say another scholarship and extends that to two years, what else is necessary? The problem has been eradicated in that scenario, IU is punishing iteslf going forward for making the hire. Is that enough? I'm trying to take off my crimson colored glasses here and look at this objectively. I'm interested in the thoughts of anyone else will do try and be objective as well. I think firing Sampson and imposing sanctions would definitely reduce the penalty. The problem still would remain that IU hired a known cheater and he continued to cheat under their watch. It doesn't exactly set a great example for other programs if simply firing the guy once he gets caught and imposing a one scholarship reduction is sufficient to not receive further penalties. Because really, 1 scholarship is not significant since teams often don't have 13 guys on scholarship and only 9 or 10 guys typically play.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Feb 13, 2008 -> 09:08 PM) whitesoxfan99, I wasnt sure about that and didnt really look into it (thats why I ended with a "?"), thanks for the information and based on that id say that it almost has to be a current player. That is my thinking as well. Wouldn't make sense to cross out some HS players names while leaving others.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Feb 13, 2008 -> 08:55 PM) Interesting thought on the blacked out names. The other possibility could be a player who is still in HS? I dont know exactly. There are players still in HS who are listed in the report.

QUOTE(Jimbo's Drinker @ Feb 13, 2008 -> 08:00 PM) Illini fans beat up Jimbo's Drinker. I'd watch that

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Feb 13, 2008 -> 08:04 PM) :hands that win to Illinois: Gordon got you guys on a bank shot and tonight Butch just got one for Wisconsin. Wow. That was awesome. Edit: DJ White has really stepped up his game this year. I didn't watch all of the 2nd half, was there a reason IU went away from him?

QUOTE(Jenksismyb**** @ Feb 13, 2008 -> 07:05 PM) I got to thinking more about the whole Samscum thing. 1) IU's next coach should be Steve Lavin if they can get him away from ESPN. He was a good coach and a good recruiter who just happened to coach at UCLA with ridiculous expectations. He started in the Big Ten so he'd be a great addition. 2) If you step back and think about it, the NCAA is so jacked up. As much as I love the fact that Samscum is getting what he deserved for being a douche-bag, the fact is he made some stupid phone calls. Obviously the being unethical and lying is horrible and he should be fired, but this all came about over some phone calls. Ok, fair enough. How long has the Reggie Bush thing been going on? They pushed Samscums sanctions in like 6 months. Reggie Bush got tons of cash, probably the biggest no-no possible, and still nothing on that. Am I the only one that see's a problem with that? The reason Sampson and IU are in so much trouble over this is because Sampson had already gotten in trouble for the same thing. Of course a repeat offender is going to get in a lot of trouble when it is clear that their pattern of behavior is to blatantly ignore and break the rules that the NCAA sets forth. And the NCAA is even more upset and I would be as well that Sampson basically completely ignored the sanctions that they set up for him based on his last violation.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Feb 12, 2008 -> 08:47 PM) If we had a Purdue fan on this site im sure theyd be saying "hes going to be the next Larry Bird". He has just been insane lately, and Gordn outside of the game against NU hasnt scored over 20 since Penn State. I guess its a what have you done fore me lately. For all we know Gordon will torch Wisconsin tomorrow and hell take down Purdue, and itll be Hummel who? (Hummel is 6'8 and grew 9 inches from his soph to junior year i believe, its not unheard of that he could still add 1 inch and a few more pounds as he fills out. He is only 18, these are PROJECTIONS) He is a going to be a great college player. But 6'8 forwards who don't play in the post and don't have great athleticism are role players in the NBA.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Feb 12, 2008 -> 08:36 PM) Better where? Who will be the better pro, probably Gordon, although if Hummel got thicker could he project to a poor mans Nowitzki. As for college if Purdue wins the Big 10 this year and Gordon bolts, it will be hard to go against Hummel who could play another 3 years. I dont know projecting players are gut feelings, there is just no way you can say stats or anything else will determine who will be a great pro and who will bust out. Some times I look at Gordon and see a player that could be the next great thing, other times he just has this way about him that makes me doubt him. And thats why I premised this all on, if Hummel continues to play this way. He has been on fire, and more importantly he has played the best in Purdue's most important games. Hummel is only 6'7 or 6'8. That means going up against guys like LeBron, Kobe, T-Mac, etc. Hummel projects as maybe a guy like Mike Dunleavy at best.

QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Feb 11, 2008 -> 10:30 PM) Maybe I am the only one that sees it, but when watching that highlight, I saw the foul and had no problem with the call. The problem is, a human cannot react as quickly as tenths of seconds on a clock so the call comes in later. And if that's not enough, any team wearing those ugly assed pink uniforms, regardless of how good their cause is, SHOULD get screwed. UGH Two comments on the calls tonight. The ref who made the call in the Georgetown game should be ashamed of himself. First of all there is no chance G'Town gets a shot off there and there was little if any contact there. That isn't even a foul with 4 minutes left let alone .1 seconds. I've only seen the Tennessee game once but there was clearly a foul. However, it did look like the clock stopped before the foul actually occurred. Edit: Just saw it again. There is almost no doubt that the clock would have run out before the foul if it wouldn't have stopped with .2 seconds left.

QUOTE(Jimbo's Drinker @ Feb 8, 2008 -> 10:41 AM) http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mariotti/78...ariotti.article decent article by Mornonnoti. I guess this is the same program who supports attempted murderers............ Lame

QUOTE(He_Gawn @ Feb 7, 2008 -> 11:08 PM) And I never stated that Indiana was a great team. We have many flaws that can hopefully be worked out. And Bassett and Crawford stepped up big tonight, lets hope that continues. Also I don't think ILL is as bad as their record, if they could hit a damn FT down the stretch they could easily be above .500. I'm just looking at the positives ok? What is going to kill IU is that their frontcourt outside of White is basically a joke. They have good guards and White is obviously a very good big man. THomas, Stemler, and Mike White are awful.