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QUOTE(gbuk @ Dec 22, 2007 -> 11:10 AM) For sure...I just hope it stays that way. So do I. I really get the feeling that based on some of his comments that he is sick of her being so controlling and really wants to live his own life. You would also think she would finally realize that she needs to back off and Legion and the coaches take care of his basketball career. She can't afford to ruin his experience at another school because you really can't afford to transfer twice in college basketball as a player for the most part.

QUOTE(gbuk @ Dec 21, 2007 -> 11:51 PM) Legit pick up...good luck with his mom, seriously...I hope she doesn't do anything that completely ruins his career for him, although she said she's staying in Lexington to continue to work on her awesome ministry of prophecy. Weber needs a guy like this, definitely a player he can work with. Well based on this decision it would appear he is distancing himself from his mom who clearly wanted him at ND.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Dec 21, 2007 -> 11:06 AM) Well, Gordon was the only recruit Weber has had on a par with Richmond and he did have trouble keeping him. It's not like the rest of Weber's recruits were 5 stars everyone wanted. But I wasn't appealing to past history, but rather what I think is an obvious future. I don't see why the 09-10 recruits would be less likely to come to Illinois if Weber were replaced, I think it might actually make the program more appealing. As you say, only time will tell. If I can switch to a more interesting subject --are you surprised at McCamey's play so far? I didn't see him play before now, and I get the impression you did. I don't want this to sound like I'm ripping on him (he's a freshman), but he doesn't seem very quick. Do you think he can be a quality point guard in the Big Ten eventually? I was hoping that Illinois would have a guard that could penetrate finally, but it's possible that that's not all on McCamey -- it seems like the UI motion offense doesn't lend itself to that. I saw him play against Simeon last year and he was outstanding in that game. Couldn't guard Rose (but who can) but he showed a ton of promise in that game. He has very good court vision and he actually handles the ball very well. I think there are some concentration issues with him as he doesn't always seem to be all there during games. He has made a lot of lazy passes this year and some passes that he could get away with in high school are turnovers right now. He has also had several really good passes dropped this year because it seems like people aren't expecting the ball (probably a product of playing with a PG who can't find the open man last year). Quickness will be a problem against the small quick PGs but he should be able to use his size to offset that on offense once he figures the game out. He is actually very fast end to end just not very laterally quick. Time will tell how good he becomes but he certainly has the ability to be a very good big ten PG. I do question his work ethic though as he doesn't seem to grasp how hard you have to work at this point in time or the intensity you need to play with at this level. And I think that has been a big part of his problem this year because most of his turnovers have just been lazy ball handling or passes. He also has to work on his jumpshot because he is an extremely streaky shooter at this point (the game against Simeon he was on fire and couldn't miss from the outside). I think the ability is there, it may take some time and I hope he develops the work ethic to live up to his potential. I do think it is time to throw him to the wolves and just let him learn on the court though. Frazier has actually regressed and he means little to the program at this point.

QUOTE(thedoctor @ Dec 21, 2007 -> 10:51 AM) well, time will tell on that. my point is that there has been one case (one) in five years where weber had a problem keeping recruits. if you can cite others i'm missing, feel free. and yes, i am fairly certain that richmond, bertrand, and paul are going to end up playing for illini. just as i'm confident crandall head will, and fairly confident anthony johnson will. but again, time will tell. i will say that my confidence in those guys coming would diminish considerably if weber was fired. but that isn't going to happen, so it isn't really relevant to discuss. This is basically my feeling on the situation. Crandall Head is basically committed to Illinois. After the shootout on Saturday he said he loved Illinois it was the only school he was seriously considering and he was making a decision shortly after the new year. Add in that Jerrance was Lu's roommate and Luther has a ton of respect for Weber and it is pretty obvious where he is heading. Richmond, Paul, Bertrand, and Richardson are all sold on playing together and they are sold on Illinois. If Richmond was committed and Weber didn't have the 09 guys a decommit may be a possibility (although if he didn't have the 09 guys he would probably be fired).

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 20, 2007 -> 08:43 PM) Doesn't help all too much when you can't hit free throws. As bad as this team has played, if they make FTs they are 9-1 right now. Oh well, I am just ready for the 09 and 2010 recruits to get here.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 20, 2007 -> 08:34 PM) Illinois got a ton of calls from the refs, and still couldn't win. Bramus and Pollitz are great players to watch. Fantastic finish to the Duke game. It's just too bad Gus isn't doing these games. Frazier needs to not see the floor the rest of the year. Play McCamey, I really don't care how much he struggles. Play him and let him improve on the court.

Legion's mom favors ND but his father and godfather favor Illinois. Will be interesting to see how this turns out.

QUOTE(Brian @ Dec 15, 2007 -> 10:49 PM) Yeah, their main post guy is out until after January with a bad foot, but nobody else is stepping up to help Brandon. If he had guys to play with, he'd be much better. Agreed. He showed flashes, but he has no help at all. None of those guys are even respectable high school players. He got frustrated and forced some bad shots. He has unbelievable potential.

QUOTE(Brian @ Dec 15, 2007 -> 10:24 PM) Paul's first possession of the game was a dunk on a sideline drive. Paul struggled today but the rest of that team is just awful.

Legion visiting Illinois next week. http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/7561712

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 05:13 PM) Legion seems a little off but that's a real good get for Illinois if it happens. It seems like it is actually his mom that is off.

QUOTE(rockren @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 01:42 PM) My friend who is a Yankee fan just told me his opinion about the list: "Easy thing to do is just not care about it." Easy for him to say when almost half the list is Yankee affiliation. Most of baseball was using steroids. When it comes to baseball players and steroids I tend to believe in guilty until proven innocent.

QUOTE(thedoctor @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 01:39 PM) radio in lexington, kentucky reports alex legion to illinois. It is not official yet. But it is looking good right now.

QUOTE(Fotop @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 10:11 AM) Take this with a HUGE grain of salt, as I got it from friends of friends of friends....It'll be interesting to see if it's true... Full list.. "Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton Bradley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozzie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenny Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsoworth, Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Schoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez,Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, IJason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood." I really hope that Pujols isn't on the list.

Things getting interesting in the Pats game. Just had a small fight. Patriots run it up and this could get real interesting.

IU looks very good without some key players today. But my god is Kentucky awful.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Dec 8, 2007 -> 03:11 PM) Glad I didn't get tickets this year, wow. Chester Frazier is useless, I thought this teams downfall would be Meacham as a 2 guard, but nope, it's Chester Frazier. I guess there is a reason he was a 2 star recruit, ugh I hate the thought of the NIT. Illinois did deserve to lose, but the refs may have won this game for Arizona and here's why: Nic Wise CLEARLY was calling timeout with 2 seconds left and the ref ignored it instead of giving him a deserved technical foul since AZ had no stoppages left, and I assume Meacham could have made 1 out of 2 technical free throws. And a special thanks to Bruce Weber for ruining the basketball program, seeing it with "his recruits" is even worse than I thought. I'd be much more upset if help wasn't on the way. A couple of years and Illini basketball will be back. Forgot to mention that O'Neill tried calling a TO with about 40 seconds left but the refs bailed him out by "fixing" the clock.

QUOTE(Brian @ Dec 8, 2007 -> 01:31 PM) Speaking of Richmond, Weber better get him signed to a commitment as soon as he can. He is killing for Waukegan right now, putting in 25-30 a night. He will play against New Trier on Friday which will be a huge test. Rumors that Kansas and Duke have contacted Jereme as well. Weber went and watched him play at Glenbrook South last week. Make sure no other recruiters talk to him. Hard to believe he is only a sophomore. Richmond is committed, he can't sign a LOI till his SR year. As long as Weber is the coach and Richardson, Paul, and Bertrand are committed he will be as well. All 4 of those guys have committed and have been sold on playing together. Next couple of years will be long but help is on the way and the current freshmen are talented. Since I am still pissed, Frazier has actually played worse this year than ever before. His decision making has somehow gotten worse and still refuses to throw the ball into the post.

I really don't even care about the results of this season. Play McCamey and the other freshmen as much as possible and get them ready for when Paul, Richmond, and the rest arrive.

QUOTE(thedoctor @ Dec 8, 2007 -> 01:18 PM) terrible. just terrible. If Zona finishes this we can thank our awful FT shooting and Frazier.

Frazier needs to see the bench.

Poor call by the ref there. McClellan just flat out lost the ball.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 8, 2007 -> 01:06 PM) Wise was about a tenth of a second away from pulling a Webber. We probably would have missed both Fts anyway.

Frazier basically single handedly set this game into overtime for Zona.

Weber really needs to start playing McCamey instead of Frazier. Frazier cannot handle the ball at the end of games.