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QUOTE(sircaffey @ Jan 13, 2008 -> 05:19 PM) I think it's safe to say these teams do not like each other. Ellis really lost his cool there.

Gordon whines more than Pruitt when a call goes against him. Didn't think that was possible.

Fts killing us again.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Jan 13, 2008 -> 05:05 PM) IU is faster and more athletic at every position. Those calls are fouls. Ratliff didn't get touched and Ellis just shoved Brock out of the way for IU's putback. But yeah you are right.

IU getting all the calls. Ratliff didn't even get touched there, just flat out blew the layup. May have helped us though.

Well I was wrong about Norv Turner. I think the Chargers get drilled next week though.

MSU only scores 36 pts in a loss to Iowa tonight. The Big 10 freaking sucks. Good win for Iowa though.

QUOTE(SnB @ Jan 10, 2008 -> 09:23 PM) Randle goes up for the drunk, instead the ball gets caught inbetween the rim and backboard, what a joke he is. In other news, Illini are miraculously only down 6 with 13 minutes left against wiscy. Shooting around 30%, sweet. I can't wait for Randle to graduate.

QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Jan 8, 2008 -> 06:29 PM) FYI, if the Plus 1 system was in place this year, the matchups would have been as follows: 1. Ohio State vs. 4. Oklahoma 2. LSU vs. 3. VA Tech USC and Georgia should all just shut the f*** up. I know they were playing well at the end of the year, but they didn't do enough to belong, even in the Plus 1 model. It's easy crowing from the outside. I hope that if we do get a playoff they go all the way and make it at least 8 teams. Have all 6 major conference champions and use the BCS formula to pick the two at large teams.

QUOTE(Felix @ Jan 7, 2008 -> 10:36 PM) I won't disagree, but LSU is a pretty good team too Absolutely but Todd Boeckman simply should not be the QB of a team in the NC game. He holds the ball way too long and makes awful decisions under pressure. Haven't been impressed with him at all regardless of what his numbers were. Another comment after watching tonights game, in this day an age your QB absolutely has to be mobile with the speed of a lot of these defenses (unless you just have overwhelming talent surrounding him like USC with Leinart).

QUOTE(Felix @ Jan 7, 2008 -> 10:31 PM) Or LSU is just really good. No he sucks.

Todd Boeckman sucks

Crandall Head has officially committed to Illinois. It really sucks that it took Weber so long to figure out recruiting but the 09 and 10 classes are going to be excellent.

QUOTE(SnB @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 03:20 PM) agreed. how far we've fallen. Just need to be patient at this point, no other choice. The 09 class and 2010 with Richmond and Head have a ton of talent. And the 07 class with Legion, McCamey, Davis, Tisdale, and Cole is actually quite strong. I am done with the upperclassmen, no talent (Weber's fault) and now some of them just aren't playing that hard. People can make jokes about the 2010 class "bringing us to the promised land" but Richmond and Head are elite talents and the 09 class is very strong. They are a ways off but while they are young, the top players in a class generally are recognized early on these days. Gordon, Rose, Mayo, Beasley,etc. were all ranked very high as early as their sophomore years. It is possible they don't develop but it isn't that likely.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 03:05 PM) McCamey is really, really good. If he doesn't start after this game, well then Bruce needs to be kicked in the groin. And I would start Davis at PF, I just can't watch Randle play anymore.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 03:02 PM) Just fast forward me to next season. A SIU - U of I game what be quite the showdown this year. First one to 40 wins?

This team is pathetic. What the hell happened to the team that played in Maui. So anyone know a way to fast forward two years?

I cannot wait for Brian Randle to graduate.

Looks like Crandall to Illinois Sunday. http://www.ilprepbullseye.com/page35.html

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Dec 30, 2007 -> 06:32 PM) Any fan that bashes Illinois basketball is in their right. Most Illini fans were unbearable in their love for Bruce, to the point where some STILL defend him. This to me is like the football program under Turner circa 2003 right now though, we're one great coaching hire away from returning to prominence. The problem is I don't know how long it will take us to fire the horrible coach and if the new guy will be any good. We got lucky with football, hopefully whenever the Weber era mercifully ends, the same occurs. Oh, and not all Illini fans have loved "BAM" forever, there are some of us who were concerned in November of 2004 when we signed a class of an offensive linemen, a 2 star PG with a 2nd best offer of College of Charleston, and a spot up shooting specialist (and hell, he turned out to be a felon). If Weber didn't have the 09 guys coming plus Richmond and basically Head for 2010 he would be as good as gone. The 06 class is when I really started getting concerned. 2005 class was very weak, but I liked and still like Jamar as a player and Chester would be fine if he was playing the role he should be in of a 10-15 mpg hustle guy who plays great D. Never saw CJ play but he actually was a top 150 player and dominated Kovortney (sp?) Barber in HS, thought he could maybe be a solid rebounder and defensive player potentially (obviously didn't work out). 05 class would not have killed the program if Weber would have capitalized on the final 4 run and landed guards in 06. Scheyer, Conley, Collins, Beverley were all guys in that class who were interested in Illinois that Weber missed on. Not landing a single guard in 06 is what killed this team. He gets a PG in that class and gets Beverley there are really no problems with the program. How you don't get a guard in that class is still beyond me. I always try to be optimistic about the future of my teams, (during and after games when I am pissed off not so much), so for me at least it was more hope that we would remain a very strong program. The talent is already in the pipeline for Illinois to return to the top of the Big 10 or else I would be calling for Weber's head and this season would be much harder to take. I'm far from happy with the state of the program (more like pissed off) but every school goes through down periods and it sure looks like we will be very good again soon, although the 09 class does seem very far away at this time. Until Legion is eligible next year Illinois will likely be painful to watch. On this years team, Chester simply should not be playing the minutes he gets. Outside of recruiting my one big criticism of Weber is his stubborness with his use of players. Against a zone where is Cole? He can shoot and pass. Chester clearly has somehow regressed and has no business being on the court 30+ minutes. Weber's treatment of Chester mirrors Zook's treatment of Halsey last year. Guys who obviously have no business in their roles yet the coach continues to back them inexplicably. I just don't get it. Pruitt is selfish and the next time he refuses to pass the ball out of the post if I'm Weber I bench him. This season is lost, play the freshmen, and get them prepared for the future. I would much rather watch Davis, Tisdale, and McCamey out there then the upperclassmen.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Dec 23, 2007 -> 12:53 AM) Actually I think the BCS chant was stupid. Sure some Mizzou fans probly got pissed, but it's not that clever. We weren't playing football. When we did, they beat us. And we all know they should be in. It would have been even more of a dumb chant had we lost... Some sort of chant that emphasizes 8 in a row would be better. Yes, 8 in a f***ing row. How hard is that to rub in? Not very. Nothing was more retarded than walking out of the Savvis Center (a few years ago) every year and having people yell "illinois football (clap clap clap clap clap)" or "yeah, well your football team sucks." It's irrelevant, as football has nothing to do with the game that was just played. And with the talent we have coming in, if Mizzou doesn't beat us next year then it could be a long time before they do so. Legion should be eligible for next years game and Mizzou loses a lot so I'd say we have a good shot as of now.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 22, 2007 -> 09:52 PM) Missouri was negative 25 with Demarre Carroll in the game. That is pretty unbelievable. Also, I my memory may not be exactly right on this, but wasn't that basically the exact same finish as last years game where Hannah lost his dribble and Mizzou didn't get a shot off.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Dec 22, 2007 -> 09:49 PM) Officials have been bad both ways. Agreed. I thought Mizzou got a ton of calls early, then we got 3 or 4 bad calls their way in a row. My comments were on college officials in general, they suck.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 22, 2007 -> 09:40 PM) After getting a lot of calls all nights, Mizzou is just getting killed by these officials. Frazier clearly got fouled after that rebound. These officials suck really bad.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 22, 2007 -> 09:34 PM) This Mizzou/Illinois game has some of the worst officiating I've ever seen. The jump ball call on Mizzou was terrible, and then the non-existent travel call on Leo Lyons is as bad as it gets. College refs are terrible at their jobs. Nothing else to say about it. They have no clue what they are doing.