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Catch the f***ing ball Herron. My god what an awful series by him.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 18, 2015 -> 06:31 PM) WTF was GB thinking playing with no safety help over the top? Really? They completely melted down. Awful by everyone except for a couple offensive players down the stretch.

And the choke is complete. Now people are going to suck Russell Wilson's dick even though he was f***ing awful today.

A play that I haven't seen discussed but on Wilson's 4th pick why did the Packers DB just go down? He had a lot of room and if he actually returns that this game is probably over. So many fluky and weird plays were necessary for Seattle to have this in OT. They have some magic going on today.

Brandon Bostick will go down as one of the all time goats if the Packers lose this game. What a pathetic play by him. And how does no Packers DB make a play on that 2 pt conversion attempt? Complete meltdown by them.

It makes absolutely no sense that the personal foul against Seattle isn't added to the end of that sack. So basically if your QB is in the process of being sacked you can take a cheap shot at a defensive player and not really be punished? How the f*** does that make any sense?

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 18, 2015 -> 03:05 PM) How do you not have a play drawn up out of that time out? Wtf Groce? And yet another late game meltdown. Indiana goes 11-0 in the final 2 minutes. Just terrible. Illinois has seemingly sucked at holding leads since blowing that game against PSU in 2006. That is also the last time I felt genuinely great about the program (and even then recruiting was going horribly). I did feel pretty good last fall when Snider was committed but that quickly tapered off.

QUOTE (Boogua @ Jan 18, 2015 -> 03:02 PM) Good game. I felt like the game really turned when the Illini were up by 9 and brought egwu back in the game. Egwu was pretty bad today. It just seemed like a bad matchup for him. He just isn't good. He was playing against a bad frontcourt and he still can't do anything. He is also still a really bad rebounder.

That Leron Black missed bunny is looking like the difference if Illinois loses right now. Too bad cause he played a really good game.

Wow that last call against Egwu was awful. It isn't a foul when you can get the ball cause you are taller than the other guy.

Ahmad Starks playing a fantastic second half. Easily the best he has looked in an Illini uniform. No if only he and Cosby can play well at the same time.

Egwu seriously sucks and looks like the Northwestern game was an aberration for Cosby and not a return to his Seton Hall form.

Ridiculous that the Nunn basket didn't count. Should have been going to the line for a 3 pt play. And I would literally never pass the ball to Egwu unless he was wide open under the rim if I was an Illinois guard. He is horrible in the post, does a s***ty job sealing the guy guarding him and he has terrible hands.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 15, 2015 -> 11:35 AM) PS: Aaron Brooks is horrendous defensively. Literally horrendous. Makes Nate look like an all pro defender. It sickens me when I see people talk about dumping Kirk because Kirk (prior to getting hurt) was playing pretty darn good in his backup role and provides much better defense than Brooks (not as good as he used to be and he can't play the above average 2's like he used to but he's still much better than Brooks). Brooks, when he's not shooting like crazy, is pretty much a major negative in the lineup. Kirk is an absolutely dreadful offensive player at this point in his career. Just awful. For how low his usage is and based on the fact he basically only takes wide open shots it is pathetic how inefficient he is, he can't create shots for himself, and he can't create shots for other people. He doesn't play terrible defense but he is a negative on offense nearly every game.

It is close so that is good but this has been a really poorly played football game. OSU putting the ball on the ground constantly and Oregon has beat stopped themselves on 3rd down on multiple occasions by dropping easy catches including what might have been a TD.

That was clearly pass interference on OSU there. Terrible no call.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 12, 2015 -> 03:18 PM) Not to mention his whole game plan last night was stupid. Nebraska is a very good defensive team and a terrible offensive team. So why are they spending 30 seconds every time down the floor? Run and gun that s***. For the same reason that you don't see teams running and gunning against Wisconsin. If you aren't turning a team over, they use a lot of clock on offense and they aren't crashing the offensive glass it is hard to play at a fast tempo at the college level without taking bad shots. Pushing the ball against a defense that is set when you don't have guys who are great at creating their own shots generally isn't that effective.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 11, 2015 -> 09:57 PM) Giving Starks and Cosby scholarships was such a terrible idea. Starks was supposed to be a one year guy and they had an extra scholarship last year. The mistake there was not realizing that there was a decent chance he wouldn't be eligible to play for Illinois last year with the changes to the hardship rules and that is on Groce. Taking Cosby was an absolute no brainer at the time. He was a really good player at Seton Hall playing against high level competition in the Big East. I've said it before but I'm not sure I've ever seen a player ever completely fall off a cliff like this where it wasn't related to either age or injury. That is a guy who was a 40% 3 pt shooter against good competition on a high volume of shots who now is completely incapable of making a shot. It is incredible to watch and a mystery as to how this has happened..

QUOTE (gatnom @ Jan 8, 2015 -> 10:33 AM) I find it pretty amusing that we play better with Tate despite all of his flaws, purely because he has some level of basic PG instinct that not a single other person on the team possesses. That being said, he did play pretty well last night. That hasn't been the case in most games this year. It certainly was last night and that was easily the best game Tate has played against legitimate competition. Maryland also helped him out by going over the top of ball screens rather than just going under all of them like most teams will do. The question is can Tate take and make jump shots when guys go under screens because he is going to have to do that in the Big 10 or he will go back to killing the team when he is on the floor. I have my doubts that he can do it but I really hope he can because Tate with a jump shot is a guy you can actually play against high majors.

I'm not sure I've ever seen a player go from being really good to beyond horrendous (unrelated to injury or age) the way Aaron Cosby has. Wow is he terrible right now.

Awesome performance for Malcolm Hill so far tonight. Putting the team on his back.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jan 7, 2015 -> 05:26 PM) curse of being an Expo? If this guy was a Yankee, Cardinal or Red Sox he'd already be in. There are not many players who excelled at all aspects of the game. Not just played them well, but excelled. Raines was one of them. Agreed. Although he did win 2 World Series with the Yankees.

Wow, Amir Williams blows an open layup for the win.

With the way Illinois has looked this year I'd be shocked if it is Illinois. Why come play for a struggling team that looks poorly coached when you have Kentucky and Kansas as options?

And re-watching some of the game from yesterday, wow does this team look really poorly coached on defense right now. OSU has some good players but it isn't like they were too quick or too big for Illinois. Illinois wasn't communicating at all on defense, players weren't rotating properly and I still have no idea what Groce's strategy is for defending ball screens. On offense the biggest problem (the turnover issues in the 2nd half which are an outlier notwithstanding) continues to be that there are simply too many possessions where there isn't any ball movement and we force a bad shot early in the shot clock. Add in that Aaron Cosby and Ahmad Starks have apparently forgotten how to shoot the basketball and it is easy to see why Illinois is struggling on that end. Also, unrelated and I've only seen OSU play a few times so I don't know if this reflects how they have looked in other games but I think OSU would also be better off playing man to man than zone against most teams. They have some fantastic perimeter defenders that aren't being utilized in the zone and their players seem to be pretty passive when playing zone in the games I've watched.