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Also, at minimum, Groce should be forced to make changes to his staff after this year. Parham is popular in Chicago but he hasn't helped us land anyone that we probably wouldn't have landed without him and it doesn't appear he brings anything to the table from a coaching perspective and I don't think Dustin Ford has much value at all either.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 3, 2015 -> 05:40 PM) Illinois sports are so irrelevant. Maybe the worst time in my life. (Born in 82). Since the Rose Bowl both programs have been dreadful (and really football has been terrible for 20 years, thanks Ron). Football hasn't finished above .500 in conference once and basketball hasn't made a single Sweet 16. Ron Guenther let both programs fall into irrelevancy during his tenure by consistently hiring bad football coaches and then hiring Weber who is just awful on the basketball side. And now it looks like Thomas has missed on both of his hires. I liked Groce but he hasn't recruited at a high enough level yet when you account for the fact that it is pretty clear he is not a great X and O guy.

QUOTE (Boogua @ Jan 3, 2015 -> 05:38 PM) Yeah, I looked at box scores for him in his last season there and he had big games against final four teams like Louisville and Syracuse. Those teams had really, really good defensive backcourts too. That's why I expected so much from him and didn't think the Abrams loss would be as big. He played some point at seton against those Big East teams and held his own. Boy was I wrong. Cosby forgetting how to play basketball is one of the more surprising things I can remember. This isn't a guy transferring from a mid major who is struggling to adjust to higher competition and it isn't a guy who wasn't great at the high major level who transferred for more playing time like Alex Legion. This is a guy who was a damn good player against similar competition (actually better competition than Illinois has played so far when you take into account the cupcakes) and now he is consistently terrible.

QUOTE (Boogua @ Jan 3, 2015 -> 05:25 PM) I never watched him play at Seton Hall, but I can't believe his jumper could have been this flat when he was there. I just can't imagine him shooting 40% from 3 with this same arc. It wasn't this flat. He wasn't a guy who shot it was a ton of arc but his shot is noticeably flatter this year. He shot 43% from the floor and 40% from 3 in the Big East (when the Big East was still really good) on a pretty high volume of shots and now he can't make uncontested layups and its shocking when he makes a 3. It is insane how bad he's been.

So taking out the Kennesaw State game I believe Cosby is 14 for his last 74. I mean you have to try to suck that bad.

It is stunning how bad Cosby has been. It is to the point I'm shocked when he makes a shot.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 3, 2015 -> 05:11 PM) Also, Egwu may be the worst pick and roll defender I've ever seen. He doesn't understand how to do it whatsoever. He's just going to defend the guard no matter what. That is a coaching issue at this point.

Groce's horrid decision to offer Tate a scholarship and not recruit Ulis hard is one of the all time hauntings. Up there with Weber telling Hummel he wasn't a Big 10 player.

Just consistently awful on defense. No communication at all. Tate and Starks are both f***ing awful.

Horrendous 2nd half performance yet again.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 3, 2015 -> 04:42 PM) Can they really change a call like that? I assumed they were checking for the elbow. They were checking for an elbow. They can't overturn a foul call. I wish they could call technicals for flops though. And I also love that the refs just called a travel on Starks when the ball was clearly tipped out of his hand and then ignored Russell's obvious travel on the other end.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 3, 2015 -> 04:06 PM) Michigan is better at scoring for the other team. How did they beat illinois? Awful. Dawkins hit more 3s than he probably will the rest of the season combined.

It is really too bad Starks and Cosby somehow forgot to shoot this year. With the way Rice, Nunn and Hill have shot from 3 this team would be great from downtown if those guys were shooting like they had their entire careers.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jan 3, 2015 -> 03:20 PM) He'd have to sit out an extra year to transfer to Iowa State Well Weber has apparently decided its a good idea to sit out his best player so definitely would have been worth it.

Marcus Foster should have transferred from KSU to play for a real coach after his freshman year.

Unbelievable the lack of urgency by Alabama on that drive. What a win by OSU.

Kiffin's play calling is brutal today. No idea why he isn't pounding the ball with Henry.

I'm also confused by Bama's play calling on offense in this one. They've been able to run to the left side at will but rather than making OSU stop that they keep going away from it.

I can't believe Eddie Jackson is one of Bama's best defensive backs. He gets torched constantly.

Epic choke by Baylor. They were clearly the better team in that game but are probably going to lose.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 31, 2014 -> 11:10 AM) I'm not sure I could handle that. I don't want that person to do anything but fail. Same. I would have a really hard time rooting for the Bears if Winston was on the roster.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 30, 2014 -> 06:44 PM) I'm pretty sure I've made this same post the last two years, but Groce has always been known as a good recruiter and good tournament coach. However, his weakness has always been in-game coaching. In a very weak Big 10 this year, if he can't make the tournament, he should be on the hot seat next year. This appears to definitely be true and while recruiting is going very well, it isn't going so well where Groce shouldn't have a very hot seat if things don't turn around quickly.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 30, 2014 -> 06:21 PM) Oh, and next year this team isn't much better. It's probably worse. You lose 4 of your top 6 players and replace them with a guard playing PG without much offensive game, 2 back-up mid-major level centers, and some freshman. You have to hope and pray Hill continues to develop into a super star, Nunn grows into an all-Big Ten caliber guy every game, Black can stay on the floor and out of foul trouble and maybe JCL gives you some shooting off the bench. Abrams will be back next year and that is an improvement over Starks as long as Tracy is healthy. Losing Egwu will hurt defensively but Paul will almost certainly be better offensively and on the glass. Losing Rice will hurt quite a bit but the hope there is that JCL is an impact freshman, Nunn develops and Cosby remembers how to play basketball so you will have plenty of scoring on the wing.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 30, 2014 -> 05:08 PM) I'm starting the exploratory committee for Groce's replacement. 2.5 seasons now of complete choke jobs in big games. It's not like 2 minutes with a bucket, it's 6, 7, 8. It's pathetic. Yep. He is recruiting well but not well enough to justify keeping him if the results on the court don't improve drastically. There is no excuse for this team not to be playing better basketball.

I love that a garbage freshmen who hasn't hit a shot all year is on fire.