Funny how they finally got rid of Danks, and a month later they picked up 2-3 years of a worse pitcher.

 

He's worse

Robin is going down swinging.

make sure the starter completely pitches you out of the game before making a move.

Keeps getting worse. 7-3 Philadelphia

Funny how they finally got rid of Danks, and a month later they picked up 2-3 years of a worse pitcher.

It's incompetence...that trade is a fireable offense.

Fun game. Hawk talking about 83.

 

Eighty three.

Anderson working the count alot more the last few games. Good to see. Even though he struck out, it was a good AB for him.

I was praying they unloaded him at the deadline. He has no chance of succeeding in the AL pitching at the Cell. Acquiring him after the Mariners debacle is one of the most idiotic decisions in Sox history and should have been final nail in Hahn's Sox coffin.

 

 

You didn't answer the question.

You didn't answer the question.

 

You trade him and he wins Cy in NL and you won't hear me say a word

Thanks Shields for making such a deep hole

Anderson has hit the wall. Trade him

Another 1-run loss.

 

How could the Sox be so stupid as to acquire Shields?

Fireable offense.

How could the Sox be so stupid as to acquire Shields?

Fireable offense.

 

I seriously hope it's a physical issue. Back problem that heals with rest and he is good to go next year

I wonder how, if at all, this miscalculation by Hahn may impact the "trust" factor between him and JR in the future.

 

Given the stories that JR had to be talked into this by Hahn you wonder now if this means Kenny assumes a bigger role again going forward...that maybe JR has doubts about Hahn's judgment.

 

Just speculation on my part but this did cross my mind tonight.

 

Mark

I seriously hope it's a physical issue. Back problem that heals with rest and he is good to go next year

 

If Shields was 24 or so, I'd say maybe....but he's 35. With ten years worth of over 200 innings pitched I believe.

 

He's done.

 

The Sox replaced a bad deal with Danks with another one with Shields. Simply amazing.

 

Mark

I wonder how, if at all, this miscalculation by Hahn may impact the "trust" factor between him and JR in the future.

 

Given the stories that JR had to be talked into this by Hahn you wonder now if this means Kenny assumes a bigger role again going forward...that maybe JR has doubts about Hahn's judgment.

 

Just speculation on my part but this did cross my mind tonight.

 

Mark

That's the trouble with dumping Hahn (who, imo, should be dumped) - it's no better, and likely worse, with KW (who should have moved on years ago) back running the operation.

Maybe Shields was KW's idea.

 

The amateur scouting appears to have done a good job.

Edited September 21, 20169 yr by GreenSox

It's really hard to COUNT on James Shields being the same guy he was EVEN in the first half of 2016 as we look forward to the 2017 rotation...let alone the pitcher he was in 2013 or 2014 in KC, where he was already experiencing some struggles with diminished stuff, elevated pitch counts, etc. With that went some of his mental edge and the swagger of being "Big Game" James in Tampa.

 

You simply can't throw that many innings for that many consecutive years without payback. Ask Mark Buehrle.

Edited September 21, 20169 yr by caulfield12

Maybe Shields was KW's idea.

Wouldn't be surprised in the slightest.

No guessing games on who is responsible, just clean house. It's not like we are losing anyone that has value outside of this organization. Some friendships may be lost but I see zero difference makers when it comes to talent evaluation.

Edited September 21, 20169 yr by soxforlife05

I seriously hope it's a physical issue. Back problem that heals with rest and he is good to go next year

 

 

With everything surrounding the trade, it really is the thing that makes the most sense. A back issue also explains how the guy can go from nearly flawless, to freaking horrible from start to start.