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2017 NFL Draft Thread

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QUOTE (shipps @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 04:20 PM)
So you give me some source called walterfootball who mentions that he thinks Trubisky has more of a second round skill set and in the same post you try to tell me you think Peterman has the possibility as the best QB in the draft by which that same walterfootball said could potentially be a developmental backup.

 

Jesus we just arent going to agree soxbadger. Its cool.

 

I know we arent going to agree, its just that I am going based on my personal opinion after watching these players play. I think Trubisky is a complete wildcard, he could easily be worth #2 or he could completely flame out. As a Bears fan, I dont think the pick makes a ton of sense. They just signed Glennon, who probably isnt a HOF or Pro Bowler, and then they go out and pick a QB #2. It just doesnt seem to make sense.

 

What made (imo) more sense, was you sign Glennon, you see what he can do as a starter. You pick BPA or trade down to get more picks. You take a QB in the middle rounds, because the risk is lower and there is plenty of history of guys after the 1st turning into serviceable QBs. After 2017 you then see where you are, if Glennon sucks, you probably have a top 10 pick in a draft with some interesting QBs (Darnold, Allen, Ross).

 

At the end of the day, its just opinion. Its fun to look back at these discussions years later and see what happened.

 

SS2k,

 

No one is saying that QBs dont get overdrafted. When Tebow was drafted it was crazy, but that was also a really thin QB class. Top pick was Bradford coming off of an injury where he only played 3 games.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 04:36 PM)
Then next year if they are terrible they can trade back and get 2 first round picks and everyone will be so happy.

 

If they pick Adams, he may be great, but he'd immediately be one of the highest paid safeties in the league. So when we are talking about value, that's also an issue. It's like taking a 1b in the top tfive of the baseball draft.

 

CHEER FOR BEER

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 04:47 PM)
I know we arent going to agree, its just that I am going based on my personal opinion after watching these players play. I think Trubisky is a complete wildcard, he could easily be worth #2 or he could completely flame out. As a Bears fan, I dont think the pick makes a ton of sense. They just signed Glennon, who probably isnt a HOF or Pro Bowler, and then they go out and pick a QB #2. It just doesnt seem to make sense.

 

What made (imo) more sense, was you sign Glennon, you see what he can do as a starter. You pick BPA or trade down to get more picks. You take a QB in the middle rounds, because the risk is lower and there is plenty of history of guys after the 1st turning into serviceable QBs. After 2017 you then see where you are, if Glennon sucks, you probably have a top 10 pick in a draft with some interesting QBs (Darnold, Allen, Ross).

 

At the end of the day, its just opinion. Its fun to look back at these discussions years later and see what happened.

 

SS2k,

 

No one is saying that QBs dont get overdrafted. When Tebow was drafted it was crazy, but that was also a really thin QB class. Top pick was Bradford coming off of an injury where he only played 3 games.

 

And this is by all accounts a thin QB class.

Odds the Bears trade down? Has to be high. If not, I assume they take a DB.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 04:08 PM)
Odds the Bears trade down? Has to be high. If not, I assume they take a DB.

I could see them going TE (or even Robinson as an LT). But yes...I think they will trade down (unless they really have a high grade on a guy there at the time).

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 06:08 PM)
Odds the Bears trade down? Has to be high. If not, I assume they take a DB.

 

I dont know a lot of good talent here so hard to pass.

 

Cam Robinson/Sidney Jones would look good. Budda Baker is also interesting but undersized.

 

If the Bears could move mid 2nd and grab some other picks that may be ideal, but otherwise no issues if they get a good lineman or db.

Robinson gone, think now the Bears can trade down and really not be too upset.

Looks like the Bears made a trade with Arizona.

Bears trade down swap 2nd get a 4th and 6th this year and a 4th next year from Arizona.............not bad

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 06:27 PM)
Looks like the Bears made a trade with Arizona.

 

Cards trade up for Kizer maybe?

Cards probably taking Kizer. I wonder what we got.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 06:30 PM)
Cards probably taking Kizer. I wonder what we got.

 

From twitter (Brad Biggs)

 

No. 36 and 7th rounder (No. 221) to #Cardinals for No. 45, 4th rd pick (No. 119), 6th rd pick (No. 197) and 2018 4th rounder.

 

So id bet its Kizer and maybe Bears get Budda.

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4th and 6th and a 4th next year

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 06:32 PM)
4th and 6th and a 4th next year

 

They got the Cards 2nd too. So its a pretty big haul for a few spots.

Wow Arizona drafted Baker

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 06:33 PM)
They got the Cards 2nd too. So its a pretty big haul for a few spots.

Yup, excellent return when you're only dropping nine spots with plenty of talent still available.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Apr 28, 2017 -> 06:35 PM)
Wow Arizona drafted Baker

 

Besides for size hed have been higher, thought he may be there at Bears 45 pick.

 

Lamp/Wilson/Jones still around. Could even see Bears go Tim Williams.

 

And just like that...we get some picks back.

I wouldn't be shocked if we danced again. Going back to...lots of depth in this draft and we can start to accumulate as many picks as possible within late 2nd and 4th.

@adamjahns

 

So in a sense, trading up for QB Mitch Trubisky essentially cost the #Bears a third-round pick (and some pick position).

Dang...I wanted the Utah safety to fall. He's going to be good, imo.

From Brad Biggs:

 

are drafting TE Adam Shaheen with 45th overall pick in Round 2. He's a Division II player from Ashland.

 

Dont know anything about him.

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Picking this time

Bears pick Adam Shaheen TE

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I got nothin. Crazy we won't get a CB this year.

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