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**June 3 game thread: Sox vs Tigers**

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Fathom you are unbelievably dramatic. But that is probably your worst post. I too am shocked a starting rotation of Miguel gonzalez, Derek holland, mike pelfrey and David holmberg is bad.

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For once, our bats and (mostly) our defense is not the issue, it's the pitching.

Royals and Sox will both be 24-30.

 

Royals 9-18, then 15-12

 

Sox 15-12, then 9-18

 

I'll take our trend.

QUOTE (Scoots @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 04:39 PM)
For once, our bats and (mostly) our defense is not the issue, it's the pitching.

 

That inning could easily have been 1 run or less without stupid decisions and a blooper 2 inches from being caught.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 09:38 PM)
Fathom you are unbelievably dramatic. But that is probably your worst post. I too am shocked a starting rotation of Miguel gonzalez, Derek holland, mike pelfrey and David holmberg is bad.

 

Just referring to Q and Gonzalez. Couldn't even tell you what Pelfrey's ERA is. Holland was a wild card all along. I personally thought the pitching has underachieved the last few years (not this one)

"Great we are winning in a season we need to lose, how white Sox "

"Oh my god we are losing! Fire everyone!"

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 04:41 PM)
Just referring to Q and Gonzalez. Couldn't even tell you what Pelfrey's ERA is. Holland was a wild card all along. I personally thought the pitching has underachieved the last few years (not this one)

 

We picked up MiGo after him getting cut by the orioles terrible staff. He has been very good for what he was. No more a wild card then Holland.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 05:40 PM)
That inning could easily have been 1 run or less without stupid decisions and a blooper 2 inches from being caught.

And if only that fence was extended 5 more feet...this is baseball. Stuff happens. For the most part, our losses have been happening as a direct result of poor starting pitching, which I mean is to be expected when you have a rotation consisting of the pitchers we have.

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QUOTE (Tony @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 04:41 PM)
Man, this is some of your worst work. Go out and enjoy your Saturday.

 

It is f***ing perfect out.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 10:41 PM)
"Great we are winning in a season we need to lose, how white Sox "

"Oh my god we are losing! Fire everyone!"

 

He's just so immune from criticism compared to everyone else

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 10:42 PM)
We picked up MiGo after him getting cut by the orioles terrible staff. He has been very good for what he was. No more a wild card then Holland.

 

Yep was very good last year but has been really mediocre this season

Unless you want to blame Cooper for Q....blame Hahn, too.

 

Holland and Pelfrey have been better than expected. The White Sox bullpen thrived actually until this week behind a back four that amazingly included Kahnle, Swarzak and Jennings. Eventually they were due to hit a wall like last year. Overused.

 

Plus the defense has been pretty bad behind them.

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Just cause I like to try and use stats for my statements, the Sox have not been better than 14th in team ERA since 2009.

James Shields starting for Charlotte in ten minutes...

 

Zack Collins apparently heard the criticism aimed in his direction!!

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 09:58 PM)
James Shields starting for Charlotte in ten minutes...

 

Zack Collins apparently heard the criticism aimed in his direction!!

 

I like Collins, just worry he's going to be a .225 or so hitter in the majors. With how much he walks, should be fine but he can be special if he can hit in the 260s

Could be worse....34 of last 35 DBacks' hitters have made outs. A measly walk.

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Anderson need to be more selective than that

Zimmerman did something that I'm shocked not many pitchers do when facing Tim.. don't throw him any strikes.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 06:10 PM)
Zimmerman did something that I'm shocked not many pitchers do when facing Tim.. don't throw him any strikes.

Yah seriously. And none of them were close. Tim is going to need to adjust soon or the rest of the league will catch on, just like they have with Melky and the shoulder high straight fastballs. Either swings through em or pops em up.

Has anyone announced yet that Brad Goldberg has been called up?

Volquez three more outs to go for no hitter.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 04:57 PM)
Just cause I like to try and use stats for my statements, the Sox have not been better than 14th in team ERA since 2009.

We play in an incredibly offense-oriented park...

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 04:53 PM)
We play in an incredibly offense-oriented park...

 

Park-adjusted should tell a different story.

And, other than Sale and Q, what good pitchers have we had the last five or so years?

 

It's not like 2006 when you had Contreras, Garcia, Garland, Buerhle, Javy and McCarthy to start the year. The talent has been short, with lots of bad drafts and reclamation projects to fill in holes.

Goldberg rocked....who's next

Tied with KC, will be a half game ahead of A's for worst AL record in a matter of minutes...

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