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2018 Sox ZiPS projections

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QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 30, 2017 -> 02:38 PM)
Would be nice if he could spell 1b as well

Yeah I totally read this and thought "what's so hard about spelling first base"?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 30, 2017 -> 03:06 PM)
Yeah I totally read this and thought "what's so hard about spelling first base"?

 

Upon rereading it I thought I was making a sick burn initially as well.

 

That said, likely one of Gillaspie or Davidson is on team so it’s not crucial.

QUOTE (WBWSF @ Dec 29, 2017 -> 06:11 PM)
Looks like another season "Mired in Mediocrity".

 

Going on 12 years in a row...

 

But I see the light!

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 29, 2017 -> 10:47 PM)
As long as you don't mind the 102-60 in 2020.

 

Because my goal is to beat that, so I expect some people to be disappointed if that's all we do.

 

I so wish there was a way I could take the under on that right now.

 

  • 4 weeks later...
QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 29, 2018 -> 11:18 AM)
The astros have a projected 35 more WAR on their roster than the white sox.

 

*gulp*

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2018-zips-p...houston-astros/

 

Again, would not be shocked if the Sox lost more this year than last year. Not having guys like Q, Frazier, Melky and company for the first three/four months of the season is going to be a blow to this group.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 29, 2018 -> 11:21 AM)
Again, would not be shocked if the Sox lost more this year than last year. Not having guys like Q, Frazier, Melky and company for the first three/four months of the season is going to be a blow to this group.

No question, but Detroit and KC are awful, and they play a lot of games against them.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 29, 2018 -> 11:23 AM)
No question, but Detroit and KC are awful, and they play a lot of games against them.

 

Anything can happen playing head to head.

I do think the recent moves make us more likely to be above KC. Our bullpen will not be as bad as our initial zips, KC's will be a little worse.

 

But using astros more as illustrative of how much talent the top teams have accumulated. I think we used to say 40 was playoff team, now its more like 45.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 29, 2018 -> 11:25 AM)
Anything can happen playing head to head.

True, but you aren't going to have 3 near 100 loss teams in the same division. Maybe they will all cancel each other out and be better record-wise than anticipated, but at least one of these teams is going to have a surprisingly good record IMO and not because of talent level.

The Sox are going to finish 3rd in the Central. At the worst.

  • 8 months later...

Yikes. These projections were actually a bit OPTIMISTIC.

On 12/29/2017 at 3:06 PM, Balta1701 said:

I count 17 WAR in that projection am I right?

 

Can someone who has seen how these turn out give that in terms of a "Projected record"? If this team does that...they're likely what, a 55 win team?

 

So that's our starting point and anything beyond that is more improvement than expected?

Welp, we ended up with 17.6! Wheeeeeeeee

On 1/29/2018 at 11:21 AM, southsider2k5 said:
QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 29, 2018 -> 11:18 AM)
The astros have a projected 35 more WAR on their roster than the white sox.

 

*gulp*

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2018-zips-p...houston-astros/

 

Again, would not be shocked if the Sox lost more this year than last year. Not having guys like Q, Frazier, Melky and company for the first three/four months of the season is going to be a blow to this group.

Yep.

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