4 minutes ago, soxforlife05 said:

No, it's not a hard choice, considering the team is running Santiago and Shields out there 2/5 days. He will pitch the whole year. Stop watching if you can't handle it or want him to fail.

Nobody is rooting for failure.

14 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

I honestly don't know if we should even care if they have to DFA Giolito and Fulmer at the beginning of next season because I think it is pretty clear that if they ever figure it out it isn't going to be here. 

Future HOFer to future DFAer in about one month.

At this stage of his career, Giolito isn’t good enough to pitch over errors. This could turn out disastrous.

Velocity maybe worst of his career 

I think he may be playing injured unfortunately.

Edited May 19, 20187 yr by soxforlife05

Just now, soxforlife05 said:

No, it's not a hard choice, considering the team is running Santiago and Shields out there 2/5 days. He will pitch the whole year. Stop watching if you can't handle it or want him to fail.

I don't want him to fail. I want him to succeed. I'm more complaining about those who all want to send him down because they have to be really careful if they use his last option now. They are bad and don't have any better options anyway, so it doesn't hurt that much to  have him learn on the job so to speak. If he had 2 options fine send him down. But he doesn't. Earlier I didn't realize he only had 1 option left. This completely changes the equation. 

Unearned runs certainly don't help

Of course, this team refuses to help itself in any way shape or form.

I just don't understand how Giolito is just going to work through "growing pains" when he misses the zone by feet regularly while working with a 90 mph fastball.

This is first start he's had where I wonder if he's hurt 

These guys just don't care. Renteria gotta go. Omar time.

1 minute ago, Sockin said:

I just don't understand how Giolito is just going to work through "growing pains" when he misses the zone by feet regularly while working with a 90 mph fastball.

This current version is out of baseball in four years 

Eloy is 1-1

If Cooper is still stressing less velocity for command and movement, they should try something else.

1 minute ago, fathom said:

This current version is out of baseball in four years 

Well having inconsistent mechanics and loss of velocity can easily be explained by compensation due to injury.....

1 minute ago, soxforlife05 said:

Well having inconsistent mechanics and loss of velocity can easily be explained by compensation due to injury.....

Agreed he's barely hitting 90 tonight 

5 minutes ago, soxforlife05 said:

Well having inconsistent mechanics and loss of velocity can easily be explained by compensation due to injury.....

If he's injured he needs to tell someone. It would explain a lot. If he does make a trip to the DL idk what took him so long to tell somebody. 

Edited May 20, 20187 yr by Jack Parkman

Watching Omar round first was painful

Score on this bum

4 minutes ago, fathom said:

If Cooper is still stressing less velocity for command and movement, they should try something else.

Because if someone can't find the zone, throwing harder is the best idea.

Engel is a burden at the plate. Wish Tilson would shake the rust off already.

Engel so bad at baseball

Yoan, please remind us why we love you

4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Because if someone can't find the zone, throwing harder is the best idea.

Nothing is working with what they are trying now

2 minutes ago, Heads22 said:

Yoan, please remind us why we love you

Missed his pitch to hit with that awful 1-0 changeup that hung up then the pitcher made a really good pitch to him to roll over.  Oh well.