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6/28 Games - Stephens/Hansen/Martinez

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  • He had a hand injury and he’s played like 15 games. This whining tonight is ridiculous.

  • What I'm getting from SoxTalk: Why aren't all of our minor leaguers hitting like 1994-1998 Frank Thomas?

  • What about his .270 average and .360 obp as a 22 year old in high a screams "elite"?

Great piece of hitting by Zavala. 3-2 fastball away and he takes it the other way in the RF/CF gap for a RBI double

Gavin Sheets HR! Number 3.

8 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

Gavin Sheets HR! Number 3.

I know a lot of people are down on Sheets because of the lack of power (and rightfully so), but I remain cautiously optimistic due to the elite plate discipline.  We all know the raw power is there, the Sox development people just need to find a way for Gavin to tap into it.  

Runner on 2nd, no outs in the first and Basabe sac bunts. Smh at this org...oh well, Collins single 

37 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

Gavin Sheets HR! Number 3.

Number 4

7 minutes ago, fathom said:

Number 4

Evidently, he's been scorching line drives this entire series. Many of them at defenders though.

33 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I know a lot of people are down on Sheets because of the lack of power (and rightfully so), but I remain cautiously optimistic due to the elite plate discipline.  We all know the raw power is there, the Sox development people just need to find a way for Gavin to tap into it.  

What about his .270 average and .360 obp as a 22 year old in high a screams "elite"?

 

2 minutes ago, Hot FiRe said:

What about his .270 average and .360 obp as a 22 year old in high a screams "elite"?

Lol...are you actually suggesting 22 is old for High A?  Regardless, a 12% BB rate & a 16% K rate is pretty good for a guy with 70 grade raw power.  Maybe elite was too strong of a word, but the kid has demonstrated plus plate discipline no matter how you slice it.

 

3 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

 

Way to teach situational hitting instead of just bunting.

Hansen looks incredibly rusty. 86 pitches and not done with 4 innings. 

14 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Lol...are you actually suggesting 22 is old for High A?  Regardless, a 12% BB rate & a 16% K rate is pretty good for a guy with 70 grade raw power.  Maybe elite was too strong of a word, but the kid has demonstrated plus plate discipline no matter how you slice it.

 

I'm suggesting its age appropriate and there is nothing that screams elite to me in regards to his plate discipline. Collins is what I would call elite. 

Hansen pulled, didn't make it out of 4th. 5 walks, 2 wild pitches....hopefully he's truly healthy and gets into a rhythm soon.  He needs to keep that status high so he can be traded :)

5 minutes ago, fathom said:

Hansen pulled, didn't make it out of 4th. 5 walks, 2 wild pitches....hopefully he's truly healthy and gets into a rhythm soon.  He needs to keep that status high so he can be traded :)

Why wouldn’t he be fully healthy and why would you want to trade him?

4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Why wouldn’t he be fully healthy and why would you want to trade him?

I've long thought he would be the guy the Sox use as a trade chip out of all their starters.  Wanted him as the key piece in a possible Yelich deal this last offseason.

2 minutes ago, Hot FiRe said:

I'm suggesting its age appropriate and there is nothing that screams elite to me in regards to his plate discipline. Collins is what I would call elite. 

Players who walk in 20%+ of their plate appearances are far rarer than "elite". You're talking hitters like Barry Bonds, Frank Thomas, Babe Ruth, these hitters did it in seasons of their career. Bonds managed a career 20.3% walk rate thanks to the incredible amount of walks he took near the end of his career, but he was also worth 164 WAR in his career. That's a little higher than elite.

4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Why wouldn’t he be fully healthy and why would you want to trade him?

Yeah man, no chance I would trade Hansen. His ceiling, four pitch repertoire and a lack of TJ surgery prevents me from entertaining the idea. But I admit I am bias due to him being my favorite pitching prospect. :lol:

2 minutes ago, Dam8610 said:

Players who walk in 20%+ of their plate appearances are far rarer than "elite". You're talking hitters like Barry Bonds, Frank Thomas, Babe Ruth, these hitters did it in seasons of their career. Bonds managed a career 20.3% walk rate thanks to the incredible amount of walks he took near the end of his career, but he was also worth 164 WAR in his career. That's a little higher than elite.

So now we're putting Collins in the Barry bonds, big hurt, and babe Ruth category? Good to know. 

Lillian's boy, Matt Skole, with two bombs tonight.

Just now, Hot FiRe said:

So now we're putting Collins in the Barry bonds, big hurt, and babe Ruth category? Good to know. 

No, I'm saying expecting 20%+ walk rates to deem someone's plate discipline/eye elite is unreasonable. I doubt Collins will walk at a 20%+ rate at the MLB level.

Nice game for Robert tonight. His speed is pretty ridiculous.

Robert was forced to bunt twice (runners on 1st ad 2nd, no outs), got himself into a 0-2 count and battled back.

Equalled Moncada’s infield hit total for the entire season, lol.

7 minutes ago, fathom said:

I've long thought he would be the guy the Sox use as a trade chip out of all their starters.  Wanted him as the key piece in a possible Yelich deal this last offseason.

I really like Hansen, but I could see it happening.  Kopech is going nowhere, the org seems super high on Cease now, and Dunning probably has the highest floor in the ceiling if healthy.  I could see Hansen being the odd man out if they can add a cost controlled star.

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