November 9, 20187 yr 8 hours ago, Jose Abreu said: Luis Robert is gonna have an Acuna-like rise in the minors. I thought it would happen this year but he couldn't stay on the field. If he stays healthy next year, he'll be knocking on the door of an MLB promotion by August (and will receive the promotion on or around April 15, 2020). The tools are real, he just HAS to stay healthy.
November 9, 20187 yr 34 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: The tools are real, he just HAS to stay healthy. Where does he start this year?
November 9, 20187 yr That is the million dollar question. My guess is Winston-Salem. If the Sox sign a couple of OFs, who knows.
November 9, 20187 yr Author 45 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: That is the million dollar question. My guess is Winston-Salem. If the Sox sign a couple of OFs, who knows. Hahn basically said he's back to Winston to start. May not stay there long though.
November 9, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, NorthSideSox72 said: Hahn basically said he's back to Winston to start. May not stay there long though. How does the AFL compare to A+ ball in terms of quality of pitching?
November 9, 20187 yr Author 11 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: How does the AFL compare to A+ ball in terms of quality of pitching? AFL is generally higher end prospects, most of whom are AA or AAA, and a few A-ballers. So gnerally the pitching in AFL is of a substantially tougher level.
November 9, 20187 yr 25 minutes ago, NorthSideSox72 said: AFL is generally higher end prospects, most of whom are AA or AAA, and a few A-ballers. So gnerally the pitching in AFL is of a substantially tougher level. I've been having strange thoughts on Robert but due to small sample size I'm not sure how I feel about it. He appears healthy in the AFL and in spring training last year when he wowed the Sox. When he is healthy you think he can surely be in AA/AAA but due to injuries he was meh in A+ last year. I think you are right if he stays healthy and starts in A+ and starts hot move him up quickly. His bat speed is elite right ? It's just strange how he has shown more at higher levels then he has at the lower levels. I know its all due to health but it's possible he can move very quickly if he can stay on the field.
November 9, 20187 yr 41 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: I've been having strange thoughts on Robert but due to small sample size I'm not sure how I feel about it. He appears healthy in the AFL and in spring training last year when he wowed the Sox. When he is healthy you think he can surely be in AA/AAA but due to injuries he was meh in A+ last year. I think you are right if he stays healthy and starts in A+ and starts hot move him up quickly. His bat speed is elite right ? It's just strange how he has shown more at higher levels then he has at the lower levels. I know its all due to health but it's possible he can move very quickly if he can stay on the field. If he can stay healthy, he wouldn't shock me to see him move multiple levels in one year. The talent is there.
November 9, 20187 yr 48 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: If he can stay healthy, he wouldn't shock me to see him move multiple levels in one year. The talent is there. Recent article said he couldn’t put much strength into his swing when he initially returned
November 9, 20187 yr It appears Robert is starting to get his feet under him. Priority has to be health this year. He added a lot of strength between his playing time, sox have to figure out a good program for him.
November 10, 20187 yr I don't expect to see him in the majors until 2020 but I think (if healthy) he's already a better option for CF than Engel. Robert is faster (believe it or not), likely has the same or better range, definitely has a better arm, and most likely would be a better hitter already.
November 10, 20187 yr Adam Engel dominated the AFL 3 years ago. With that being said, Robert is the real deal. Can't wait to see him crushing his way to the majors late next year/ early 2020.
November 11, 20187 yr Tyler Flowers dominated as a hitter in the AFL one year with Braves. He was MVP I think.
November 12, 20187 yr On 11/9/2018 at 11:42 PM, Jose Abreu said: I don't expect to see him in the majors until 2020 but I think (if healthy) he's already a better option for CF than Engel. Robert is faster (believe it or not), likely has the same or better range, definitely has a better arm, and most likely would be a better hitter already. There is no doubt he is a better option for CF than Adam Engel. Engel is a placeholder until the rebuild starts paying off. In theory he could still become a starter if his bat can move up to even the 40 to 45 hit scale, but with each year that goes by the odds of that happening go down.
November 12, 20187 yr Robert is #1 on the BA hot sheet for the AFL. https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/arizona-fall-league-mlb-prospects-hot-sheet-111218/
November 21, 20187 yr On 11/9/2018 at 9:42 PM, Jose Abreu said: I don't expect to see him in the majors until 2020 but I think (if healthy) he's already a better option for CF than Engel. Robert is faster (believe it or not), likely has the same or better range, definitely has a better arm, and most likely would be a better hitter already. Where did you find that Robert is faster than Engel ? According to statcast Engel is as fast as Billy Hamilton at a top speed of 30.1ft/second which is 4th in all of MLB.1st is 30.5 ft/sec so i is very difficult to be faster than Engel. Edited November 21, 20187 yr by CaliSoxFanViaSWside fixed mistake
November 21, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Where did you find that Robert is faster than Engel ? According to statcast Engel is as fast as Billy Hamilton at a top speed of 30.1ft/second which is 4th in all of MLB.1st is 30.5 ft/sec so i is very difficult to be faster than Engel. I thought Robert put up a 29.5 during AFL?
November 21, 20187 yr 12 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I thought Robert put up a 29.5 during AFL? That would be a full second faster than the fastest guy currently in MLB when the top guys are only separated by tenths of seconds. Unless it's statcast verified that time is highly unlikely. Edited November 21, 20187 yr by CaliSoxFanViaSWside fix typo
November 21, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: That would be a full second faster than the fastest guy currently in MLB when the top guys are only separated by tenths of seconds. Unless it's statcast verified that time is highly unlikely. To your original question, I got that conclusion from combining this info: https://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/2017-home-to-first-times/ Edited November 21, 20187 yr by Jose Abreu
November 21, 20187 yr I don't doubt there's a possibility Robert is faster than Engel. I just don't see any proof of it using the same measuring stick. Guys like Engel and Robert need to be measured in the same way. Home to 1st times might be good to see who gets from home to 1st fastest but they do not indicate who is fastest. For example some guys are faster getting out of the box than others. Also when does the clock start on home to 1st times? Is it at contact? How is it measured ? A stop watch ? Sorry I'm jut bored ?
November 21, 20187 yr 22 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: I don't doubt there's a possibility Robert is faster than Engel. I just don't see any proof of it using the same measuring stick. Guys like Engel and Robert need to be measured in the same way. Home to 1st times might be good to see who gets from home to 1st fastest but they do not indicate who is fastest. For example some guys are faster getting out of the box than others. Also when does the clock start on home to 1st times? Is it at contact? How is it measured ? A stop watch ? Sorry I'm jut bored ? Yeah the measurement has room for error, but even with error, Robert’s time is *so much* better than anyone else’s in baseball that it could be legit.
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