1 minute ago, OneDog847 said:

The point of losing 100 plus games this year is to get a higher first round pick. Theoretically, it should be harder to screw up a top 3 pick versus the number 8 pick. 

I'm fine with the players not being that good, thats fine. But having an attitude of lets lose 100 games or "so what if we lose 100 games" is appalling to me.

Just now, bmags said:

I still don't get how a left handed pitcher with a cheat code pitch as good as rodon is so freaking inconsistent.

No command or control. He has no idea where anything other than the cheat code pitch is going. 

Just now, Chisox378 said:

I'm fine with the players not being that good, thats fine. But having an attitude of lets lose 100 games or "so what if we lose 100 games" is appalling to me.

You should log out and not log back in for a couple of season then.

Rodon just threw his first changeup. (4th inning, as I said)

9 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Must be nice having pitchers that can throw a 96 mph fastball down the pipe when they need it.

I remember when Rodon used to hit upper 90's, even some times 99-100mph. His numbers weren't bad last year so there was little talk about the disappearing velocity and K rate.

Rodon bout to fuck around and get 8+ K's today and he's been bad. Speaks to his stuff. 

Just now, southsider2k5 said:

You should log out and not log back in for a couple of season then.

haha, maybe so, maybe never come back.

Rodon adding the slurve to his repertoire might replace his changeup. He still has a chance to be a #3 if he takes an approach similar to Pat Corbin.  

Edited April 8, 20197 yr by Jack Parkman

1 minute ago, Chisox378 said:

haha, maybe so, maybe never come back.

This IS the team we have, and will have for the near future.

5 minutes ago, JuliusO1274 said:

I remember when Rodon used to hit upper 90's, even some times 99-100mph. His numbers weren't bad last year so there was little talk about the disappearing velocity and K rate.

The velocity was still there late in games. Nobody saw him throwing 89-91 this year coming. We all thought he'd get it back this season consistently because he was still pumping 96-98 mph late in games last season.  

He was 91-93 early in games last year and got stronger as the game went on. Rodon's velocity is much worse overall this season than it was in 2018. 

Edited April 8, 20197 yr by Jack Parkman

Reached back for 93 on that one.

There's strikeout #8.

4 minutes ago, bmags said:

I still don't get how a left handed pitcher with a cheat code pitch as good as rodon is so freaking inconsistent.

because at the MLB level the hitters are too good to be a one pitch starter, no matter how good that pitch is.  You probably know that but just in case :-)

1 minute ago, Chisox378 said:

haha, maybe so, maybe never come back.

That's the flipside to tanking. People lose interest when a team is terrible for years on end. There is no guarantee that this rebuild works and the fanbase will continue to dwindle and attendance will mirror Tampa Bay... 

He didn't have a good outing, obviously, but 8 ks in 4 innings while sucking is still impressive. So his arm being shot really doesn't add up.

Just now, Dick Allen said:

He didn't have a good outing, obviously, but 8 ks in 4 innings while sucking is still impressive. So his arm being shot really doesn't add up.

the walks and fastball command will continue to limit him no matter how many Ks he gets on his slider.  Especially with teams that can pack righties up and down the lineup/

Leury Legend can do it all

2 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

The velocity was still there late in games. Nobody saw him throwing 89-91 this year coming. We all thought he'd get it back this season consistently because he was still pumping 96-98 mph late in games last season.  

He was 91-93 early in games last year and got stronger as the game went on. 

He was not hitting 96-98MPH last season. It was rare to see him hit anything 94 or above just like this season. At least the K's are back this season though.

1 minute ago, OneDog847 said:

That's the flipside to tanking. People lose interest when a team is terrible for years on end. There is no guarantee that this rebuild works and the fanbase will continue to dwindle and attendance will mirror Tampa Bay... 

Once again, I dont mind them being terrible as long as they are truly trying to win games and play solid baseball. When this year started and still to today, I really believe Ricky can bring this team to the playoffs. 

1 minute ago, Dick Allen said:

He didn't have a good outing, obviously, but 8 ks in 4 innings while sucking is still impressive. So his arm being shot really doesn't add up.

He still has the 80 grade slider and a 65 slurve so he can get away with throwing 90-92 mph. He needs to learn how to command his fastball and changeup if he's ever going to be better than a #4 with this stuff. His breaking balls are nasty. 

8 minutes ago, Chisox378 said:

I'm fine with the players not being that good, thats fine. But having an attitude of lets lose 100 games or "so what if we lose 100 games" is appalling to me.

I don't want a top three pick if it means Rodon, Lopez, Gio and other young guys suck. I'd rather have pick 14 and they look good. 

3 minutes ago, JuliusO1274 said:

He was not hitting 96-98MPH last season. It was rare to see him hit anything 94 or above just like this season. At least the K's are back this season though.

Yes he was, but only late in games. Did you watch? His last inning he was 95-98 pretty consistently around pitch 80-100 during his good stretch. 

around inning 3-4 he was 93-95 and innings 5-7 he was topping out at 96-98.

Edited April 8, 20197 yr by Jack Parkman

At least with lester hurt and pirates into the Cubs bullpen in the 3rd I'll be able to enjoy the Cubs fans crying when they blow their game

Does WGN not have a better angle of that ball? cmon

Just now, Chisox378 said:

Once again, I dont mind them being terrible as long as they are truly trying to win games and play solid baseball. When this year started and still to today, I really believe Ricky can bring this team to the playoffs. 

I understand where you are coming from, but the playoffs ain't happening this year. The Sox got no pitching. Can't win games without good pitching. 

I'm just focusing on guys like Anderson, Moncada, and Jimenez. They are the only guys in the starting lineup who should be on the team two years from now.