July 28, 20196 yr What in god’s name is this team doing? https://mobile.twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1155596536362913792 Edited July 28, 20196 yr by Moan4Yoan
July 28, 20196 yr they're gonna trade syndergaard to the padres for MLB guys and try to make a run at 2020. not saying its a good plan but i guess its a plan.
July 28, 20196 yr Author Apparently the Mets gave up some pitching prospects, but no names yet. Can’t wait to see the actual names. Also, if you think the KW/Hahn/Reinsdorf trio is bad, imagine having the Wilpon’s & Brodie Van Wagenen instead. At least we know things could be worse.
July 28, 20196 yr It was rumored the Mets were going to trade for Stro and then trade Thor lmao. I mean if they do that it makes zero sense. If Thor were to get traded he's going to end up in SD.
July 28, 20196 yr Just now, Chicago White Sox said: Apparently the Mets gave up some pitching prospects, but no names yet. Can’t wait to see the actual names. Also, if you think the KW/Hahn/Reinsdorf trio is bad, imagine having the Wilpon’s & Brodie Van Wagenen instead. At least we know things could be worse. There's also a greater hope for an eventual change in ownership...there's that. The Wilpon family had enough of a financial setback with the Madoff fiasco that they might feel compelled to sell at some point.
July 28, 20196 yr Syndegaard has one more year of control than Stroman. So it's simply hoping the prospects that you get back from the Padres (let's say, Quantrill, L.Allen, Naylor plus) are enough to make it worth it... That sounds short, so they're going to ask for Luis Patino (Lake Elsinore), Michel Baez or Morejon from the Top 100 list (both those guys are on the current roster)
July 28, 20196 yr 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Apparently the Mets gave up some pitching prospects, but no names yet. Can’t wait to see the actual names. Also, if you think the KW/Hahn/Reinsdorf trio is bad, imagine having the Wilpon’s & Brodie Van Wagenen instead. At least we know things could be worse. On the other hand, our drafts the last 3-4 years have been so bad there is nothing to trade of value outside of the untouchables. It’s really disappointing when teams are getting good trade value for their 2nd and 3rd round picks.
July 28, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, fathom said: On the other hand, our drafts the last 3-4 years have been so bad there is nothing to trade of value outside of the untouchables. It’s really disappointing when teams are getting good trade value for their 2nd and 3rd round picks. Where's our Yelich, lol?
July 28, 20196 yr 4 minutes ago, fathom said: On the other hand, our drafts the last 3-4 years have been so bad there is nothing to trade of value outside of the untouchables. It’s really disappointing when teams are getting good trade value for their 2nd and 3rd round picks. Yeah. My thoughts exactly. The system is very top heavy and that is a major problem when it comes to wanting to fill out the roster next year or in 2021. Eventually they will have to figure out how to develop these 2nd round or 3rd round picks. Hahn loves referring to critical mass of prospects. But when the upper echelon prospects experience major injuries and the 2nd tier prospects under perform, I don't think critical mass exists.
July 28, 20196 yr Author 11 minutes ago, fathom said: On the other hand, our drafts the last 3-4 years have been so bad there is nothing to trade of value outside of the untouchables. It’s really disappointing when teams are getting good trade value for their 2nd and 3rd round picks. The 2018 draft seems fine. Walker, Stiever, Pilkington, & Heuer all have some trade value, plus there’s still hope for some of the HS picks to emerge. The problem is the 2016 draft quickly went from looking great to a disaster due to injuries, Collin’s slow and/or lack of development, & Hansen’s meltdown, while the 2017 draft had many highly questionable picks. I mean I can’t believe we went over-slot in the 2nd for a college 1B and then wasted two early picks on low ceiling pitchers in Henzman & McClure. The Burger injury & LuGo AA struggles have made it very possible we end up with nothing from this draft. At this point, the over-slot 1B is probably our best hope of getting a contributor and that’s a huge if.
July 28, 20196 yr 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: The 2018 draft seems fine. Walker, Stiever, Pilkington, & Heuer all have some trade value, plus there’s still hope for some of the HS picks to emerge. The problem is the 2016 draft quickly went from looking great to a disaster due to injuries, Collin’s slow and/or lack of development, & Hansen’s meltdown, while the 2017 draft had many highly questionable picks. I mean I can’t believe we went over-slot in the 2nd for a college 1B and then wasted two early picks on low ceiling pitchers in Henzman & McClure. The Burger injury & LuGo AA struggles have made it very possible we end up with nothing from this draft. At this point, the over-slot 1B is probably our best hope of getting a contributor and that’s a huge if. You’re a lot higher than me on Walker and Pilkington, as I think both have had mediocre seasons. But yes, the 2016 and 2017 have been epic failures up to this point.
July 28, 20196 yr Author 3 minutes ago, fathom said: You’re a lot higher than me on Walker and Pilkington, as I think both have had mediocre seasons. But yes, the 2016 and 2017 have been epic failures up to this point. Walker was on absolute fire for W-S after an initial adjustment period. He’s since hit a cold steak, but I remain optimistic with him. I know many here are down on him and that’s totally fair, but BA & MLBpipeline both remain high on him based on their latest rankings. As for Pilkington, his ERA looks bad at W-S and his BB rate is admittedly high, but his K rate is fine and @SoxAce said he was hitting 94 MPH in his last start. If that’s truly the case, then I think he’s still a very interesting prospect.
July 28, 20196 yr Author So the Mets gave up two pitching prospects, but Fangraphs had neither guy as even a FV 50. Does anyone know how BA & MLBpipeline ranked these guys? I know they were high draft picks, but it doesn’t appear either was a top 100 type.
July 28, 20196 yr Keep shit on topic, which is Stroman to Mets. If you wish to discuss something else, go to another thread.
July 28, 20196 yr Beyond Triple-A lefthander Anthony Kay, who pitched a scoreless inning at the Futures Game, the Mets have no prospect reinforcements on the immediate horizon. Most of the organization’s top talent is concentrated at low Class A Columbia and in short-season ball, a product of focusing on high school talent in recent drafts and a continued emphasis on Latin America. College lefties Kay, David Peterson and Kevin Smith are the only exceptions in the Mets’ midseason Top 10 Prospects ranking. baseballamerica.com
July 28, 20196 yr Anthony Kay, a 2016 first-round pick, was considered the Mets’ most ready pitching prospect, but has struggled since being called up to Triple-A earlier this season. Kay is 1-3 with a 6.62 ERA in seven starts. Woods-Richardson was selected by the Mets in the second round of the 2018 draft, and is 3-8 with a 4.25 ERA with Single-A Columbia. Joel Sherman认证账号 @Joelsherman1 Told the whole trade is Kay/Woods-Richardson for Stroman. #Mets #Bluejays Gee, it would have been nice if we could have beaten out the Blue Jays with an offer from our formerly #1 farm system (which is completely bereft of starting pitching prospects at the moment)...because we, ahem, need starting pitching desperately in order to compete with the Twins and Indians in 2020, unless we are going to completely write it off as well. Edited July 28, 20196 yr by caulfield12
July 28, 20196 yr Targets for the Mets as they deal Syndegaard 1A) Cal Quantrill 1B) Will go after Baez or Morejon, might have to accept Luis Patino (#2 in terms of potential after Gore) in the CAL League...Logan Allen would be a disappointing fallback position 1C) Josh Naylor or Xavier Edwards...unless they're willing take a lesser AA position prospect in order to get Patino No way the Padres will trade Mackenzie Gore. Not sure how much rope Luis Urias has left at second, he's been up to the majors 3 time now and has struggled offensively all three times, but very nifty defensively. Considering he's still ranked as one of the Top 20-25 prospects in baseball, moving him would be a shocker.
July 28, 20196 yr Author Stroman only has one year of control left correct? I saw an article that said two, but that’s got to be wrong.
July 28, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Stroman only has one year of control left correct? I saw an article that said two, but that’s got to be wrong. Hes FA after next year.
July 28, 20196 yr Author 3 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: Hes FA after next year. Thanks, really doesn’t make any sense for the Mets, although the price wasn’t that bad and they should get a comp pick for him after the 2020 season if he stays healthy. Will be interesting to see what they get for Thor & Wheeler.
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