December 6, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said: I don't see why anyone wouldn't. It's not my money, and the team would instantly become the best in the AL for the foreseeable future It would pretty much kill their flexibility and we'd be in a position like the Cubs were though. If some guys underperform they just have to deal with it. That being said I agree with it. However, there's no point in discussing it because it will never happen.
December 6, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: It would pretty much kill their flexibility and we'd be in a position like the Cubs were though. If some guys underperform they just have to deal with it. That being said I agree with it. However, there's no point in discussing it because it will never happen. For the love of god can people stop acting like the Cubs rebuild was a failure.
December 6, 20205 yr I think Wheeler could be moved I’d just be surprised if it’s before they bring on their new President or VP or whatever it will be
December 6, 20205 yr 40 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I care about my team winning than carrying forward some petty grudge. It ain't petty my friend. If they won't be happy here than we don't want them. And if they turned down 7 million to not be here, they probably won't be happy. Not to mention we would have to add good prospects to get him.
December 6, 20205 yr Wait, if Wheeler gets traded, does that mean no FAs will be signing with PHI in the future? That’s what I’ve heard about Grandal a hundred times.
December 6, 20205 yr 9 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: It would pretty much kill their flexibility and we'd be in a position like the Cubs were though. If some guys underperform they just have to deal with it. That being said I agree with it. However, there's no point in discussing it because it will never happen. Like the Cubs? Would you be upset with three straight ALCS appearances and a title in the next three years? Followed by more playoff appearances and chances at a title?
December 6, 20205 yr 8 minutes ago, fathom said: For the love of god can people stop acting like the Cubs rebuild was a failure. It was and it wasn't?
December 6, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: Like the Cubs? Would you be upset with three straight ALCS appearances and a title in the next three years? Followed by more playoff appearances and chances at a title? Hell no. The Cubs rebuild as a whole wasn't a failure at all. I think those who say it is are ridiculous. But pretending a lot of their players didn't severely underachieve in enough seasons is wrong though. It wasn't a failure and it was disappointing to their fans simultaneously. Does that make sense? Every one of their major players underachieved at one point or another except Rizzo after 2016. Edited December 6, 20205 yr by Jack Parkman
December 6, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: It ain't petty my friend. If they won't be happy here than we don't want them. And if they turned down 7 million to not be here, they probably won't be happy. Not to mention we would have to add good prospects to get him. He took 6% less on the same amount of years to be closer to family and stay in NL. If I was choosing between jobs and one was 6% less salary but closer to home, it would not be a hard decision. You guys act like he refused to even negotiate with the Sox. This is so dumb.
December 6, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, bmags said: He took 6% less on the same amount of years to be closer to family and stay in NL. If I was choosing between jobs and one was 6% less salary but closer to home, it would not be a hard decision. You guys act like he refused to even negotiate with the Sox. This is so dumb. Thanks bmags. This is exactly the point I was trying to make. This is how I think it went down: Wheeler: I'm planning on signing in Chicago Mrs Wheeler: I'd really prefer to stay on the East Coast, close to NYC. What's the difference in money? Wheeler: 20M right now. Mrs Wheeler: If you can get the money close, I'd prefer to stay over here Wheeler: Ok that makes sense Wheeler goes to his agent and says that if they can get the money difference to under $10M we'll sign in Philly. Go to Klentak and see if he can get it done. Klentak obliges, Wheeler signs in Philly. Edited December 6, 20205 yr by Jack Parkman
December 6, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: Hell no. The Cubs rebuild as a whole wasn't a failure at all. I think those who say it is are ridiculous. But pretending a lot of their players didn't severely underachieve in enough seasons is wrong though. It wasn't a failure and it was disappointing to their fans simultaneously. Does that make sense? I think their fans are wrong too. All you can ask for in baseball is to have a decent chance at a championship. The Cubs have been just that for the last six years. Especially when you consider they had almost nothing for 100 years. Kris Bryant has been hurt. Baez had one down year. Contreras is still good. Rizzoli is still good. Nico will be solid for them. They have Yu and Hendricks Frontline their rotation. Their problem was that Heyward contract and Torres trade. It prevented them from being able to shore up the pitching and bullpen. At this point they could still field a competitive team in that division for another few years.
December 6, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, bmags said: He took 6% less on the same amount of years to be closer to family and stay in NL. If I was choosing between jobs and one was 6% less salary but closer to home, it would not be a hard decision. You guys act like he refused to even negotiate with the Sox. This is so dumb. Closer to his girlfriend's family. And we are talking about 7 million dollars, not 30 or 40 grand. If his decision was to be close to her family then his negotiations with us were probably to raise the Phillies offer, not to actually play for us.
December 6, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: Closer to his girlfriend's family. And we are talking about 7 million dollars, not 30 or 40 grand. If his decision was to be close to her family then his negotiations with us were probably to raise the Phillies offer, not to actually play for us. When you're talking about a 9 figure contract, $7m changes his quality of life zero percent. And BTW, they're married now and have a kid together. Edited December 6, 20205 yr by Jack Parkman
December 6, 20205 yr 13 minutes ago, bmags said: He took 6% less on the same amount of years to be closer to family and stay in NL. If I was choosing between jobs and one was 6% less salary but closer to home, it would not be a hard decision. You guys act like he refused to even negotiate with the Sox. This is so dumb. It was 7 million dollars. You acting like thats the same as me taking 100k instead of 106k is hilarious. Closer to family smh. These guys are on road 1/2 the year. They live elsewhere in off seasons. Edited December 6, 20205 yr by Look at Ray Ray Run
December 6, 20205 yr 6 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: Closer to his girlfriend's family. And we are talking about 7 million dollars, not 30 or 40 grand. If his decision was to be close to her family then his negotiations with us were probably to raise the Phillies offer, not to actually play for us. You are talking 7 million dollars over the course of a 5 year 118 million contract. In terms of how it affects his life, it is no different than my example. That’s why percentage terms adds more clarity.
December 6, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: It was 7 million dollars. You acting like thats the same as me taking 100k instead of 106k is hilarious. The difference in quality of life between $118M and $125M is about the same.
December 6, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: It was 7 million dollars. You acting like thats the same as me taking 100k instead of 106k is hilarious. Closer to family smh. These guys are on road 1/2 the year. They live elsewhere in off seasons. That is what it’s like when you are going to make 24 million a year in one place and 25 million in another.
December 6, 20205 yr 8 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: When you're talking about a 9 figure contract, $7m changes his quality of life zero percent. And BTW, they're married now and have a kid together. 7 million is 7 million. That was his first big time contract.
December 6, 20205 yr Just now, bmags said: That is what it’s like when you are going to make 24 million a year in one place and 25 million in another. No, there literally nothing alike which is why 95% of players take the most money especially at the top of the FA pay scale but plenty of real world people don't move careers or jobs for the small raises i cited. 7 million dollars never stops being 7 million dollars. And part of the competition with these guys is salaries.
December 6, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: The difference in quality of life between $118M and $125M is about the same. If this is true, why does everyone constantly say players will go to the highest bidder?
December 6, 20205 yr Just now, SonofaRoache said: If this is true, why does everyone constantly say players will go to the highest bidder? Most of the time the money isn't that close.....and I'd take it that most of the time a player and his SO will take the dough.
December 6, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, SonofaRoache said: If this is true, why does everyone constantly say players will go to the highest bidder? And when things are close agents literally start doing tax calculations.
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