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2 hours ago, Jack Parkman said:

Chark

Ok - That isn't actually as bad as I thought, because a bunch of money was spent today so available cap space is shrinking so maybe they can get someone for not as bad as I though (knowing they to also address in draft).  

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1 hour ago, Chisoxfn said:

Ok - That isn't actually as bad as I thought, because a bunch of money was spent today so available cap space is shrinking so maybe they can get someone for not as bad as I though (knowing they to also address in draft).  

They have to sign at least 2 WRs. They can't go into the draft with only 2 WRs on the roster. 

I'd imagine one will be Juju or Chark and the other will be someone like Demarcus Robinson. 

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20 hours ago, Chisoxfn said:

4th highest paid wideout in the league I believe. Crazy money. Sounds like Robinson might be headed to Chiefs on a 3yr deal.  I liked Kirk a lot - but not $18M a year good.  That said - they need a wideout. Landry to me (if you can get him for less guarantee / less years) isn't such a bad play.  Curious to see what Bears do here.  

Holy crap why pay that much for Kirk?!?

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28 minutes ago, staxxington said:

Holy crap why pay that much for Kirk?!?

I have no idea. But they basically gave WR1 money to a WR2/3 slot receiver. He's never had a 1,000 yard season - not even in the 17 game season last year. When the Cardinals needed him to step up his performance with Hopkins out for multiple weeks last season, he did not - proving he's nothing close to a WR1.

Don't know how much money is guaranteed but this could be one of the worst NFL contracts ever. Not to mention it'll drive the price up for actual WR1's. I can see Davante's and Deebo's agents asking for 30 mil a year now.

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James Daniels went for 3YR 8M per with Steelers. Reasonable price but I presume Poles is setting the bar that I'm not going to just run the same guys or something close to the same out there and/or must have had a different view of Daniels.  

Chark signing for a reasonable 1YR deal with Lions is interesting.  I am presuming Bears are going to sit around and see who they can get on shorter-term deals while they obviously target the draft.  I am curious who the Bears are in-on / what we will see happen here. I have a feeling we'll see a ton of moves from Bears, especially as we pivot into next week.  

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17 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said:

James Daniels went for 3YR 8M per with Steelers. Reasonable price but I presume Poles is setting the bar that I'm not going to just run the same guys or something close to the same out there and/or must have had a different view of Daniels.  

Chark signing for a reasonable 1YR deal with Lions is interesting.  I am presuming Bears are going to sit around and see who they can get on shorter-term deals while they obviously target the draft.  I am curious who the Bears are in-on / what we will see happen here. I have a feeling we'll see a ton of moves from Bears, especially as we pivot into next week.  

I’m glad the bears aren’t the jaguars but I hope we aren’t going to trot out the 2017 bears

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26 minutes ago, bmags said:

I’m glad the bears aren’t the jaguars but I hope we aren’t going to trot out the 2017 bears

I think they will spend - just not day 1. Poles literally said he likes B/C and that means waiting for the market to set itself and than trusting your scouting of those remaining targets. With that said - Browns cut a vet center who could be a nice fit and obviously Armstead is still out there (he's real good - but can Bears actually keep him healthy). 

JuJu is still out there - who I would love, especially if you could get him on the shorter term (i.e., 3 year dealing).  Myles Jack is also interesting - pair him next to Roquan and presume you probably can get him for a reasonable price (given he's cut as teams cap spaced is already dissapearing).  

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28 minutes ago, SoxAce said:

 

Is he any good? Seems like a good use of money (2 Yr 8M with 1st year fully guaranteed). He plays center & guard and started 28 games over past 2 seasons for Packers.  If nothing else - very good depth move that can help if they miss on some of the bigger targets they chase or if Borom doesn't pan out at guard like they hope.  

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21 minutes ago, SoxAce said:

 

Missed all of last year with Raiders but went from undrafted to a pretty solid depth guy (at a minimum).  Presume cheap so can't complain with the signing and still young. Presume cost very low resources so again, no arguments here.  

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9 hours ago, Chisoxfn said:

Is he any good? Seems like a good use of money (2 Yr 8M with 1st year fully guaranteed). He plays center & guard and started 28 games over past 2 seasons for Packers.  If nothing else - very good depth move that can help if they miss on some of the bigger targets they chase or if Borom doesn't pan out at guard like they hope.  

He's a solid player.  Plays a decent center, but I think he is best a right guard.  

He has had to come in because of injury and always held up, including all of last year.

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14 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

 

Hopefully I'll be retired and gone by the time this is ready to go. I really don't want to pay another PSL, but probably will if I'm still here.

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On 3/14/2022 at 8:56 PM, Jack Parkman said:

They have to sign at least 2 WRs. They can't go into the draft with only 2 WRs on the roster. 

I'd imagine one will be Juju or Chark and the other will be someone like Demarcus Robinson. 

Honestly - what If they went Juju, Valdez and a draft pick. I think that could happen. I saw someone else suggest Juju, Arob, 2nd rounder and that isn’t a bad dynamic with Mooney. Reality is first is more likely and I do like Mooney, Juju (just stay healthy) and a rookie. Juju is money in the slot and I think he compliments Mooneys game well.

I will say - with the money Miller and these pass rushers got - I am really curious what they could get for Quinn. 

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28 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said:

Honestly - what If they went Juju, Valdez and a draft pick. I think that could happen. I saw someone else suggest Juju, Arob, 2nd rounder and that isn’t a bad dynamic with Mooney. Reality is first is more likely and I do like Mooney, Juju (just stay healthy) and a rookie. Juju is money in the slot and I think he compliments Mooneys game well.

I will say - with the money Miller and these pass rushers got - I am really curious what they could get for Quinn. 

If I were Poles, I'd try to get JuJu, MVS and Demarcus Robinson, and aim to get either Watson or Pickens with pick 39. Poles seems to put a premium on speed. 

Also, if they're available I'd look into moving a late rounder for either Shenault or Mims. 

Honestly, if they had a WR room of: 

Mooney

JuJu

MVS 

D. Robinson

Shenault/Mims 

I could live with not drafting a WR in the 2nd round. 

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8 minutes ago, scs787 said:

I feel like the Bears are just waiting on the Armstead domino to fall. 

 

Obviously there's more to be added than just him, but I think a lot depends on whether or not they can land him. 

It seems like Armstead is going to stay in New Orleans - with Watson looking more and more likely to be headed there. 

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As for WR. I love the  

1 minute ago, Chisoxfn said:

It seems like Armstead is going to stay in New Orleans - with Watson looking more and more likely to be headed there. 

That's what I think too, but man, how are the saints gonna clear the cap? They already have to clear 5M just to get Watson. 

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3 minutes ago, scs787 said:

As for WR. I love the  

That's what I think too, but man, how are the saints gonna clear the cap? They already have to clear 5M just to get Watson. 

Once they get Watson - they restructure his deal and can create a bunch of space. The hard work is getting the $35M free to start so they can take him - once they get him (as his contract is currently established) - than they can get creative and spread things into a more cap friendly deal which would give them space for Armstead (presumably).  

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