deezpac Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 i'm not really sure if i like Frank comming back. As a kid growing up Frank Thomas was my favorite player and a big reason why i'm a Sox fan in the first place, but as i've grown older his attitude and selfishness has kinda worn thin with me. Who are some other 6 million dollar guys? i guess if 6 mil is a bargan than i like the move, but i'd rather have more speed in the line up. didn't Tommy Herr bat #3 behind Coleman and Ozzie Smith with Willie McGee in the 5 hole? at least that was the order in RBI Baseball (best baseball game ever) i miss a lot of news being here in Colorado but what's the deal with Robbie and Jose? I wish i could listen to more Chicago news, i've really missed the Score since i moved away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 I am not really excited about Big Hurt coming back. I dont hate him I just want the sox go the other way. Yeah he is still a great hitter but he doesnt produce when it counts. I enjoyed the thought of getting Nick Johnson from the Yanks but I guess that is out of the way now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 How many teams have players hit in the three hole that have low home run totals? The team that won our division would fall under this category. The player? Doug Mienkiewicz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDsDirtySox Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 The team that won our division would fall under this category. The player? Doug Mienkiewicz. I can't stand Doug Mientkiewicz... But I am Happy Frank is coming back. I have seen too many of my favorite Sox players go out with a different team or get pushed out at the end on bad terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastime Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 If it makes you feel any better, consider these two players: Player A - .267 avg, 42 HR, 105 RBI, .562 SLG, 35 doubles Player B - .325 avg, 37 HR, 104 RBI, .587 SLG, 35 doubles Player A makes 6 million a year, and Player B makes 20 million a year. Is Player B's extra 58 points on the batting average worth an extra 14 million a year? NO WAY. Player A is Frank Thomas, Player B is Manny Ramirez. I know Manny is a GREAT hitter - one of the best, but statistically, he's not 14 million dollars better than Frank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApplingsRevenge Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 If it makes you feel any better, consider these two players: Player A - .267 avg, 42 HR, 105 RBI, .562 SLG, 35 doubles Player B - .325 avg, 37 HR, 104 RBI, .587 SLG, 35 doubles Player A makes 6 million a year, and Player B makes 20 million a year. Is Player B's extra 58 points on the batting average worth an extra 14 million a year? NO WAY. Player A is Frank Thomas, Player B is Manny Ramirez. I know Manny is a GREAT hitter - one of the best, but statistically, he's not 14 million dollars better than Frank. Well said. The battle for supremacy in MLB will have to be done with fiscal responsibility, at least if you're not the Yanks, Red Sox, Mets, or the revolving door of the last 10 years (Orioles, Dodgers, Seattle). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastime Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Their numbers are somewhat similar, and Manny is a much better hitter at this point, but there's a underlying characteristic to remember (especially in the clubhouse) : Frank Thomas may be a grumpy crabass, but Manny Ramirez is a selfish dickhead. We at least have the worst of two evils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 now let's get on with the task of putting the rest of the lineup and the pitching staff together Would have been somewhat easier without the 6 million we're going to owe a "Twilight" Frank Thomas. With this news, if the Sox are going to make any significant moves this offseason, they will have to shop around PK. Or Magglio, right? Wouldn't that seem more likely, given his salary, production, and the fact that it's his walkaway year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 now let's get on with the task of putting the rest of the lineup and the pitching staff together Would have been somewhat easier without the 6 million we're going to owe a "Twilight" Frank Thomas. With this news, if the Sox are going to make any significant moves this offseason, they will have to shop around PK. Or Magglio, right? Wouldn't that seem more likely, given his salary, production, and the fact that it's his walkaway year? Unfortunately, I have to agree. I don't see any other way for the Sox to compete without increasing payroll drastically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 now let's get on with the task of putting the rest of the lineup and the pitching staff together Would have been somewhat easier without the 6 million we're going to owe a "Twilight" Frank Thomas. With this news, if the Sox are going to make any significant moves this offseason, they will have to shop around PK. Or Magglio, right? Wouldn't that seem more likely, given his salary, production, and the fact that it's his walkaway year? Unfortunately, I have to agree. I don't see any other way for the Sox to compete without increasing payroll drastically. The story from the MLB site on Frank's return doesn't sound good as far as the 2004 payroll. Williams flatly states that the $51 million level from 2003 is not expected to increase significantly for this year. Apparently the $12 million or so we offered Colon is going back into Reinsdorf's pockets and not being used to bring in some more talent. I assume the hopeful projection of $60-65 million by many of us was based on our collective assumption that money not spent on Colon would still be spent on improving the team. PK or Magglio will have to go obviously. Those two, Frank, Carlos, Loaiza, Buehrle, and Koch alread account for like $45 million. That's before resigning Sandy or Robbie, or Jose or whever we hope might replace him, or any new pitching. I'm really depressed now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 now let's get on with the task of putting the rest of the lineup and the pitching staff together Would have been somewhat easier without the 6 million we're going to owe a "Twilight" Frank Thomas. With this news, if the Sox are going to make any significant moves this offseason, they will have to shop around PK. Or Magglio, right? Wouldn't that seem more likely, given his salary, production, and the fact that it's his walkaway year? The thought has crossed my mind Ghost. I'd rather them find a way to unload PK at this point. If we deal Maggs simply because Frank Thomas is JR's boy and money restraints self-imposed by JR himself, then that is a f***ing shame. Maggs is 10 times more the "franchise" player right now than Frank Thomas is. But Maggs is due to make more than Thomas so it make sense for JR I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Whoop-dee-motherf***ing-doo! At least we'll have one player swinging for the fence every AB next season. :puke Yeah, you're a f***ing dope for certain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 At 6mil, Frank is not that bad of a player. Really? You think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 For $6 million, things could be worse. Could be better, but it could be worse. make the best of it, folks You disappoint me, definitely. I always enjoy reading your posts, but this is pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Would have been somewhat easier without the 6 million we're going to owe a "Twilight" Frank Thomas. With this news, if the Sox are going to make any significant moves this offseason, they will have to shop around PK. And the hits just keep on coming!!!!! Go and hide your head in shame, buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 ROTFLMAO Amazing eh ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 ROTFLMAO Amazing eh ... CubKilla will most lilkey be inducted into the Hall Of Dopes on the first ballot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted June 13, 2004 Author Share Posted June 13, 2004 CubKilla will most lilkey be inducted into the Hall Of Dopes on the first ballot. Why is he trying to stir up trouble now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Would have been somewhat easier without the 6 million we're going to owe a "Twilight" Frank Thomas. With this news, if the Sox are going to make any significant moves this offseason, they will have to shop around PK. Or Magglio, right? Wouldn't that seem more likely, given his salary, production, and the fact that it's his walkaway year? Unfortunately, I have to agree. I don't see any other way for the Sox to compete without increasing payroll drastically. The story from the MLB site on Frank's return doesn't sound good as far as the 2004 payroll. Williams flatly states that the $51 million level from 2003 is not expected to increase significantly for this year. Apparently the $12 million or so we offered Colon is going back into Reinsdorf's pockets and not being used to bring in some more talent. I assume the hopeful projection of $60-65 million by many of us was based on our collective assumption that money not spent on Colon would still be spent on improving the team. PK or Magglio will have to go obviously. Those two, Frank, Carlos, Loaiza, Buehrle, and Koch alread account for like $45 million. That's before resigning Sandy or Robbie, or Jose or whever we hope might replace him, or any new pitching. I'm really depressed now What did the payroll settle at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 a lot of crow to be served up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Whoop-dee-motherf***ing-doo! At least we'll have one player swinging for the fence every AB next season. :puke What the hell is your problem? Not only is he one of the greatest hitters in White Sox history, he's having an MVP type season. What do you want? 9 Joe DiMaggio's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 lol this got bumped from last year. And it sure does take some balls to criticize AFTER the fact :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Yeah, you're a f***ing dope for certain. And your putting this old thread up because... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 lol this got bumped from last year. And it sure does take some balls to criticize AFTER the fact :headshake There is nothing wrong with criticizing people after the fact. That's where most of the definitive evidence comes in to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 And your putting this old thread up because... Because I want to make you angry, Jeremy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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