August 20, 20232 yr 11 minutes ago, JoeC said: Well, still deserves a win thread On one hand, some fans are bitching about a win. On the other hand, it was nice to see a win and some hits by Sosa, Moncada and Colas.
August 20, 20232 yr 30 minutes ago, The Beast said: On one hand, some fans are bitching about a win. On the other hand, it was nice to see a win and some hits by Sosa, Moncada and Colas. I like White Sox wins and hate losing and tanking.
August 21, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, JoeC said: Well, still deserves a win thread Yep. White Sox Supercut coming right up. Trigger warning - Yoan gets a double.
August 21, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, The Mighty Mite said: I like White Sox wins and hate losing and tanking. Tanking only gets so far in terms of the odds of the draft pick anyway. At some point you want to see the team win and members on future teams contribute in whatever role possible.
August 21, 20232 yr Just now, The Beast said: Tanking only gets so far in terms of the odds of the draft pick anyway. At some point you want to see the team win and members on future teams contribute in whatever role possible. To me "tanking" is productive if you are playing younger players regularly to determine whether they hold future value, and are not concerned whether this impacts wins and losses. If you're playing guys like Elvis and Grandal (if Seby ever returns) regularly, than you're not doing it right. Same as in 2017-2109 when Hahn signed several veterans, some expensive, instead of taking chances on younger players and claims of other younger players who might have made a difference in the 2020s.
August 21, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, The Mighty Mite said: I like White Sox wins and hate losing and tanking. Oh look, a meaningless 49th win late August! Oh yay! Edited August 21, 20232 yr by Bob Sacamano
August 21, 20232 yr Author 10 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: To me "tanking" is productive if you are playing younger players regularly to determine whether they hold future value, and are not concerned whether this impacts wins and losses. If you're playing guys like Elvis and Grandal (if Seby ever returns) regularly, than you're not doing it right. Same as in 2017-2109 when Hahn signed several veterans, some expensive, instead of taking chances on younger players and claims of other younger players who might have made a difference in the 2020s. To a point. There is value in helping a vet rebuild value for a half a season and flipping him for a prospect, especially if you don't have viable long term solutions already
August 21, 20232 yr Remember when Cliff Politte, who for some reason was batting, pulled back a bunt vs the Rockies to go the other way for a RBI
August 21, 20232 yr 21 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: To me "tanking" is productive if you are playing younger players regularly to determine whether they hold future value, and are not concerned whether this impacts wins and losses. If you're playing guys like Elvis and Grandal (if Seby ever returns) regularly, than you're not doing it right. Same as in 2017-2109 when Hahn signed several veterans, some expensive, instead of taking chances on younger players and claims of other younger players who might have made a difference in the 2020s. That is fair, but consider the remaining games. Should Sosa and Perez start every game or most games?
August 21, 20232 yr Just now, The Beast said: That is fair, but consider the remaining games. Should Sosa and Perez start every game or most games? Yes
August 21, 20232 yr 10 minutes ago, JoeC said: To a point. There is value in helping a vet rebuild value for a half a season and flipping him for a prospect, especially if you don't have viable long term solutions already Agreed, but the deadline is gone so FAs like Elvis and Grandal can no longer be flipped. Also don't have to go out and sign guys like Welington Castillo ($14.5M), Kelvin Herrera ($19M), John Jay ($4M) and Parrot ($12M) when you're not going anywhere and then claim "the money has been spent." and have perennial holes at C, 2B and RF.
August 21, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, The Beast said: That is fair, but consider the remaining games. Should Sosa and Perez start every game or most games? If they are on the ML roster, yes. If not, let them develop in Charlotte. They should play most games. I'm somewhat OK with a 32 year old Trayce Thompson because I don't believe they have another player in the system who can cover defensively CF for Robert, and you don't want the pitchers killed by a lack of OF defense. Also, Sheets should never play another inning in RF/LF the rest of the season or career with the Sox if he returns in 2024 beyond an emergency injury situation.
August 21, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Texsox said: I'm going to remember this win for minutes. I'll be able to sleep well tonight....because I'm very tired.
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