Eloy with Sox .240/.297/.345/.642 with BAL 232/.270/.316/.586

DeJong with Sox .228/.275/.430/.706 with Cards 233/.283/.437/.720 both places an OPS+ of 99

Pham with Sox .266/.330/.380/.710 with Cards .206/.286/.368/.653 with KC .241/.268/.367/.635

Pillar with Sox .160/.290/.360/.650 with Ana .254/.304/.408/.712

Grossman with Sox .211/.329/.268/.597 with TEX .238/.336/.362/.698 with KC .136/.321/.136/.458

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

Eloy with Sox .240/.297/.345/.642 with BAL 232/.270/.316/.586

DeJong with Sox .228/.275/.430/.706 with Cards 233/.283/.437/.720 both places an OPS+ of 99

Pham with Sox .266/.330/.380/.710 with Cards .206/.286/.368/.653 with KC .241/.268/.367/.635

Pillar with Sox .160/.290/.360/.650 with Ana .254/.304/.408/.712

Grossman with Sox .211/.329/.268/.597 with TEX .238/.336/.362/.698 with KC .136/.321/.136/.458

DeJong with Royals

Romy?  Burger?  Anderson?  Duke Ellis?

Can probably backdate to the point nobody was really in charge last year and Hahn had a TA trade ready and got overruled by KW/JR.

Edited September 24, 20241 yr by caulfield12

So basically our shitty players are still shitty elsewhere

4 minutes ago, T R U said:

So basically our shitty players are still shitty elsewhere

The pitching story is quite different...with the exception of Fedde.

And the irony there is our biggest strength as an org is supposed to be Katz and Bannister.

1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

DeJong with Royals

Romy?  Burger?  Anderson?  Duke Ellis?

Can probably backdate to the point nobody was really in charge last year and Hahn had a TA trade ready and got overruled by KW/JR.

Great list of random and like none of it fits with topic at hand.

3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

Eloy with Sox .240/.297/.345/.642 with BAL 232/.270/.316/.586

DeJong with Sox .228/.275/.430/.706 with Cards 233/.283/.437/.720 both places an OPS+ of 99

Pham with Sox .266/.330/.380/.710 with Cards .206/.286/.368/.653 with KC .241/.268/.367/.635

Pillar with Sox .160/.290/.360/.650 with Ana .254/.304/.408/.712

Grossman with Sox .211/.329/.268/.597 with TEX .238/.336/.362/.698 with KC .136/.321/.136/.458

Grossman still OPSed .756 as a RHH against lefties this year, total. He doesn't seem to be a good lefty hitter anymore. 

2 hours ago, T R U said:

So basically our shitty players are still shitty elsewhere

That was my general thought

3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

Great list of random and like none of it fits with topic at hand.

It's not random at all.

It's just extending your list into last season when we seemingly had three GM's making decisions simultaneously.

For me, that's the real dividing line when you look at talent like Quero entering and leaving the team.  Does each individual transaction increase or decrease the talent level of the organization.

 

We may or may not have proven anything with a handful of washed up vets in their 30s versus mostly younger pitchers in their prime like Cease departing and coming fairly close to Top 5 Cy Young again if he wins his final start this week.  Even Fedde doesn't have a huge amount of mileage on his arm comparatively.

Edited September 25, 20241 yr by caulfield12

10 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

It's not random at all.

It's just extending your list into last season when we seemingly had three GM's making decisions simultaneously.

For me, that's the real dividing line when you look at talent like Quero entering and leaving the team.  Does each individual transaction increase or decrease the talent level of the organization.

 

We may or may not have proven anything with a handful of washed up vets in their 30s versus mostly younger pitchers in their prime like Cease departing and coming fairly close to Top 5 Cy Young again if he wins his final start this week.  Even Fedde doesn't have a huge amount of mileage on his arm comparatively.

Except it wasn't what was posted and didn't need 8 more random names added, but sure.

3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Except it wasn't what was posted and didn't need 8 more random names added, but sure.

Let's add Jake McCarthy, Robles and Bart. It's like Joc being a Sox player.

Add in Romy and Burger, and baby, you got a stew going.

4 minutes ago, Quin said:

Let's add Jake McCarthy, Robles and Bart. It's like Joc being a Sox player.

Add in Romy and Burger, and baby, you got a stew going.

Mmmm Burger

19 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Except it wasn't what was posted and didn't need 8 more random names added, but sure.

Your formatting was unusually poor, lol.

More was expected.

 

Don’t be too hard on me, back in the hospital again for a herniated disc.  Fun times.

12 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Mmmm Burger

Still have room for Outman Kelenic and more “lefty savages.”

Have to wonder the TA, ELoy, Moncada, the type of injuries they've had that being good at hitting a baseball no longer possible. 

Then you have to wonder if the approach to hitting, drafting, and development are not consistent in the organization other than consistently bad.

Watching the better teams you see a lot more patience at the plate.   You can have slow guys like Vaugh and Sheets in your lineup unless they are contently hitting 30 homeruns. 

22 minutes ago, kitekrazy said:

Have to wonder the TA, ELoy, Moncada, the type of injuries they've had that being good at hitting a baseball no longer possible. 

Then you have to wonder if the approach to hitting, drafting, and development are not consistent in the organization other than consistently bad.

Watching the better teams you see a lot more patience at the plate.   You can have slow guys like Vaugh and Sheets in your lineup unless they are contently hitting 30 homeruns. 

I was starting to wonder that for Timmy for sure, but maybe Eloy too.  A lot of lower body injuries for guys who that is vital too.  Maybe they add up over time?

19 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

Eloy with Sox .240/.297/.345/.642 with BAL 232/.270/.316/.586

DeJong with Sox .228/.275/.430/.706 with Cards 233/.283/.437/.720 both places an OPS+ of 99

Pham with Sox .266/.330/.380/.710 with Cards .206/.286/.368/.653 with KC .241/.268/.367/.635

Pillar with Sox .160/.290/.360/.650 with Ana .254/.304/.408/.712

Grossman with Sox .211/.329/.268/.597 with TEX .238/.336/.362/.698 with KC .136/.321/.136/.458

Which brings us back to decades of poor drafting, free agent signing, and trading. Perhaps development. 

Garbage in garbage out. 

On the pitching front ... Kopech has been amazing for the LA Dodgers. Just another laughable situation involving the Sox. He was a joke for Chicago. Way too inconsistent.